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  • eb2_immigrant
    04-30 03:18 PM
    With my very best wishes to those of you waiting for your GC, this thread is created for the lucky among us who received it recently. I am putting together a list of things to do, and not do, to maintain our freshly minted PR status, which should also help during future citizenship application. The list is mostly about little things that others have learned from experience (and I am learning from their experience, by reading in immigration-related forums such as IV). The more obvious things that can be found for example in USCIS handbook (http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/M-618.pdf) are not included here. Below is a snapshot of what I have gleaned from Internet so far, and please add your own input(s):

    LIST of DO's :

    1. Carry the original PR card on your person at all times (e.g. in your wallet), keep photocopies in different places, and also store A# on your computers. Note: This is a contentious issue (do a google on "carry green card" and see for yourself), despite being required by law (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=fe17e6b0eb13d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=4f719c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD). Some people are naturally worried about losing wallet and the eventual hassle of replacing the lost card (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=b3f7ab0a43b5d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD), whereas others, including me, prefer to follow the law, in case I am suddenly asked to produce evidence of my legal status (e.g. in some border states, or unforeseen events, such as being involved in an out-of-state car accident where showing my DL might just not be enough). Failure to comply may result in, at best a fine, and at worst detention for breaking a law. (See comments by InTheMoment below for additional perspectives.)

    2. Retain all original copies of USCIS documents related to your legal status during the entire period of stay in USA, and shred all photocopies (except when you have a photocopy but not its original).

    3. Retain all employment-related documents, particularly original copies of appointment letters.

    4. Retain copies of all tax return forms from the year of your first entry, or (at least) previous 10 years (you can request IRS (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f4506.pdf), or your professional tax preparer, for any missing copy).

    5. Maintain a detailed log of USA exit/entry, including dates, POE and countries traveled, beginning with the day of first entry.

    6. Maintain a detailed list of all legal troubles, including minor traffic infractions such as speeding violations (ignore parking violations, because they do not constitute legal "detention"), going as far back as possible. Keep copies of all relevant court papers, traffic tickets, proof of any payment (e.g. scanned copies of personal checks used, credit card statements), and so on.

    7. Update your social security card (http://www.ssa.gov/online/ss-5.html) to remove any restrictive clause about work authorization printed on it. Note: AFAIK, the procedure changes nothing as far as your privileges go, and some of you may not even have such a clause on your SS card (I don't have it either).

    8. Return your I-94 cards to POE on your next trip outside USA, to "close the open files" on your past travels (I do not know what it means though). Note: AFAIK, this is also not required, and besides, you should have the chance to do this while applying for citizenship.

    9. Renew DL to get rid of the annoying "Temporary" word (in case you are in one of those states that do this).

    10. Update your status with your employer by filing new I-9 form (thanks to InTheMoment for this point).

    11. Continue to notify USCIS (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=c1a94154d7b3d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D) about change of address within 10 days of moving, as before (thanks to seahawks for this point).

    12. Keep a list of current and past residential addresses, including dates of stay. Retain all leases/ownership documents.

    13. Remember the basics: Initiate your GC/passport renewal process at least 6 months before expiry/Intl travel (Thanks to pappu for this point.)

    14. And yes, move the family first commitment at the top of your must-do list, now that you have less worry about re-entry, and make that long-delayed trip home to see your old folks one more time. (I am visiting my 83-yr old Dad, who still has more hair than I do, and less gray too, in June.)

    LIST of DONOT's :

    1. Do not sign up for voter registration card. In particular, never vote in national/state/local elections that are open only to citizens, because this is also a law (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=fe17e6b0eb13d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=4f719c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD). Even an accidental mistake (e.g. voting out of ignorance) is a serious offense, which would not only derail your future citizenship plan, but may even result in deportation.

    2. Do not develop a pattern of frequent and/or long absences from USA, unless you have taken prior permission for valid reasons (e.g., studying abroad, medical emergencies etc). Otherwise you may face trouble at POE on your next re-entry attempt, because DHS has become stricter in recent times about possible misuse of PR status, and POE folks are now trained to spot such patterns.

    3. Do not switch job soon after getting GC. This is one of the most discussed, but least understood, issues because no one seems to agree on "how soon is soon". The rule of thumb appears to be "6 months", and a safer bet is "1 year" (here is a thread (http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=154533) on another forum). This again relates to USCIS being increasingly sensitive to possible misuse of PR status, and this question will come up during your citizenship application process. (But, as InTheMoment points out below, the issue becomes moot if you invoke AC21.)

    4. Those of us who self-sponsored our GC via NIW or EB1A route are not bound by such employer-employee commitment, but you should continue working in "similar areas of expertise" that you claimed in your NIW/EB1A petition, and preferably on a longer time scale.

    [This is an evolving list thanks to valuable inputs from folks here and elsewhere, so keep checking back.]

    Cheers,
    Stuck(no more)InTheMuck

    Good post I like it and I probably may follow most of these eventually but, if I think about it, it seems to me lot of stress. Maintaining records from past ten (GC)/fifteen (Citizenship) years is certainly a stressful activity. Except education certificates I never cared for anything in my home country. In spite of taking care of all this, if you get involved in an unfortunate event everything GC/Citizenship goes into vain and back to square one.

    I am not trying to discourage or depress any one. It�s just a thought.




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  • still_waiting
    04-26 12:48 PM
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  • dixie
    07-19 06:51 PM
    I would think IT experience is the same anywhere so taking it to canada should be ok? If not there are plenty of other management jobs there. It might be a new start but in a one year timespan you will be well established.
    Is it just my wishful thinking?

    As for masters, are you persuing MBA? How about PMP?

    I think US experience will hold good in canada, at at least in IT. Canadian experience matters for immigrants who directly come from their home countries, never having lived in north america before. The trick is to find a good enough job for your experience level .. what is the point of going there and doing the same kind of job that you were stuck with here ?. That is easier said than done given the limited size of the canadian IT industry. I second your thoughts if you do get a good job, an year or so should be good enough to establish yourself. I fact, I know a couple of guys from my area who moved to canada with their families to escape retrogression, and are now well-settled there with no intention of ever coming back to the US. But yes, it took a while for them to find those jobs.




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  • gcisadawg
    03-11 02:03 AM
    Why do you bring Malice with you, everywhere, seriosly how does your family stand you ?
    I have seen your posts earlier, they are full of abuses, unjust full of most useless comments, let me tell you one thing, it is a very well known truth people who are most abusive on cyber space, are most fattoo & have been beaten up kind of people because they spend their life in threat but on cyberspace they become Lion. You are a typical Cyber Sher... But in real life I can guess....

    I second you...Kunju has a history....



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  • fundo14
    04-25 11:02 AM
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  • maddipati1
    09-25 03:52 PM
    those who are defending IV has more green dots coz, they are the ones who do all the volunteer work and involve actively.

    get it! now can u rest for a while not ur case :-)

    Just an observation -

    Folks who are defending IV has a lot of Green dots -

    I rest my case.



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  • ssa
    10-08 01:58 PM
    I had H1B valid up to 2010 (3 years extension because of I-140 being approved). Then I traveled abroad and entered US last December using AP. My new I-94 said "paroled in" and had an expiry date of Dec 2008 (till the date the AP was valid). Last week my company applied for transferring my H1B to one of it's subsidiaries as my position was transferred to the new subsidiary. They applied using premium processing and got an approval this week. My new H1 is valid for the next three years now (till 2011) :)

    Also, although I entered US using AP I continued working using my old H1B. I did not use EAD. I talked to my attorney and according to them entering on AP does NOT automatically switch you to EAD. You can still keep on working on your original H1B. Since my H1B transfer was approved later I believe they are correct in this regard.

    Hope this helps.




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  • conchshell
    06-05 01:04 PM
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  • realizeit
    08-14 10:20 AM
    Mr chaanakya, You may find this as a personal attack! But it is not. This is an attack on your thought process!

    You claim that you received a PHD. But I seriously doubt whether the university that decorated you with a PHD evaluated your ability to think rationally and ability to reason!

    Normally with education people achieve wisdom, knowledge, ability for rational thinking, ability to reason, humility, compassion and a better understanding of the functioning of the world.

    I am not saying you do not have the right to complain or right to protest. You have and you definitely should have. But the approach that you have taken is the wrong one! In your post you criticize about people lamenting their plight! In reality, you are also doing the same, Am I correct?

    If you are a real PHD, just go through the following post that you presented and analyze how you can improve that to make it a product from a REAL PHD!

    If such an educated guy like you can become an opportunist, how you can expect higher standards from lesser mortals!

    In another post you said that you were eligible for EB1 and couldn't go through that rout, are you lamenting here? If you are well qualified, why didn't you go through that rout?

    You said:

    "You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job."

    In the same token, Why you are not trying to achieve a suitable job at a suitable firm which will apply your GC in EB1? You have all the opportunities for that, right? Why can't you achieve a Nobel prize and obtain GC in a split second? Who is stopping you?

    Just because, you did your masters and PHD from here, does that make you special? What about a guy who obtained Masters from G Britain? - Is he ineligible? Would you prefer special treatment over him? The point is, when you came here, you swore that you do not have any intention to immigrate, and you just have intentions to study and return to your home country - Try to remember, you did that in your F1 visa application form. So, my friend, nothing gives you a right to be here or to get GC. It is a privilege.

    You need to understand one thing: Each person has different skills, living circumstances, responsibilities, and different type of blessing from the almighty. So, don't measure everyone with the same yard stick that you are using to measure and don't use your own selfmade standards.

    If undocumented immigrants where also competing with you for a GC spot, you would have said, they also have the same opportunity here, why they are not taking masters and PHD to get their GCs sooner?

    In reality, some are fortunate to reach your level, but not everyone! But that doesn't make them ineligible for the Pursuit of Happiness and Pursuit of a better life!

    If you do have a real PHD, you should lead, you should be a role model for many and propel your energy in the positive direction instead of a stupid post like this! You can work to make things better in this country!

    My point is, work hard and lead to improve the immigration related laws and procedures!

    Last point I would like to mention: Dear friend, Just education alone will not make you a better person or a person with wisdom. Try to learn from life, lives of others, problems of others! I think, if you try, you can understand this better than me, because you have better education!

    And please, don't speak for me: I am an EB2 Masters category guy.


    Last message to all folks who express their feelings through red dots: Think before you act! Provide the real reason why you are giving a red dot. Don't just allow your emotions to control you.






    Yes, that is right, I said “plight of EB2-India”.

    I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...

    Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.

    Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.

    There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as “oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years” etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).

    All these posts that refer to “my career is over because my gc is delayed” are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.

    For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven’t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!




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  • TUnlimited
    07-18 09:49 AM
    Date Delivered To USCIS: July 2
    Time Delivered To USCIS: 10.25 AM
    Service Center: NSC
    Rejected: Dont Know



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  • noone2day78
    07-16 06:31 AM
    Signed earlier :)
    Spouse signed. Does not allow me to sign as it recognizes IP address!!

    Contribution so far:

    $200




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  • optimist
    06-11 04:30 PM
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    Only questions I have now are:
    1. Any idea generally how long these things can go on?
    2. During the trial will there be any restrictions on leaving the country (In genuine emergency situations)?
    3. In the worst case if I am willing to give-up my GC..would it still make sense for us(my spouse and 2 kids) to go thru all this emotional stress all over again by staying here and thinkign about what will happen tomorrow...?

    Last thing you want to do now is to lose hope. You have gone through a lot of stress, but you've got to fight this out!

    1. This could take about 1.5 - 2 years to resolve. At the end of that, there will either be a settlement or a trial.
    2. There will be no restrictions to leave country, but you might be expected to be in court on trial dates. Again remember, a very small number of such cases actually go to trial- most are settled out-of-court. If yours doesn't end up in a trial, you will never have to actually go to court.
    3. No need to give up your GC dream! Since you do not have any property/assets here, you have nothing to lose.

    Cheer up!



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  • misanthrope
    10-03 04:17 PM
    You attack the EB3 calling them third grade workers to begin with and then talk about arguing fair....

    Again, you are making false accusations that are absolutely baseless. I have already asked you in my reply to your previous post to prove what you are saying.
    Till now, nothing.




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  • trueguy
    08-19 03:24 PM
    Total AOS applications pending as of June-2008 is 740,969.
    What percentage of them is Eb-3? where did you get that 55% from?
    What % of EB3 is from india? Where did you get that 30% from?

    Thanks,
    g

    This pending AOS number (740,969) includes family based AOS and EB based. So we should ask them how many of these are EB based (including EB2/EB3).

    Mr Gotcher said one time that there are about 400K EB cases pending. So if that is true and USCIS doesn't waste any visas going forward then this backlog should clear in about 3-4 years assuming same rate of new applications in EB2 category



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  • gotgc?
    01-31 10:51 AM
    Click on MOST RECENT...then our questions are 10 & 21.....otherwise you need to browse through 100 th page....




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  • rubiela
    11-07 10:45 AM
    I have been a victim since october 2004 I am still pending ... as NOvember 05 2007



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  • HRPRO
    03-29 03:41 PM
    Alex

    Again agree with Nathan, if he is doing this as a pattern, expose him in the forum and cause as much damage as you can.

    I will also send you a PM




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    06-12 09:14 PM
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  • gsc999
    07-11 12:25 PM
    Fellow IVians or IVers. Whichever you prefer:

    You may not be able to attend the San Jose rally but you can still be part of the effort by volunteering to help call the members in California and inform them about this event. You can call even if you are on the East Coast. This is urgent!

    This will help us focus on other logistic issues like banners, posting flyers.
    Your help will make the San Jose peaceful walk a success!




    wa_Saiprasad
    07-15 08:33 PM
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    dealsnet
    11-13 12:27 PM
    My H1B going to expire Jan 2008. I am not planning to renew it. My PD is current (india-eb2 2004 jan). I am planning to travel in March 2008. Do I can travel with AP, without valid H1B papers. ? Do I need to renew my H1B ?
    Please reply.



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