sayantan76
08-22 03:43 PM
I like your response, really -- I think it's frank and hits upon what it means to be Indian at heart.
BUT, when one makes a decision to immigrate - he/she's not just making that decision for himself - but also for his/her spawns and the future generations to come. Is it fair for us to rob them of (well, i know most american born desi kids don't care a rats ass about going/being in India) - what it feels to be an Indian at Heart? what it 'Really' feels like to be watching/talking cricket/movies on 'em gullies, what it's like to be eating gaadi chaat, what a festival should really feel/look like .. and a bunch of other stuff- -that happens only in India.
not trying to discount anyone's opinions .. it's just the internal dilemma that needs addressing
all excellent points by Vikram and american desi!
I personally think that many of us take the issue of citizenship less seriously than it ought to be........also some of us also seem to confuse the National & Historical identity ( being a Citizen of India) and the Cultural identity (street food, cricket matches, Hindi movies etc.)
Re - the original post - i dont agree that becoming a US citizen is an achievement - a test of your patience and diligence in going through the onerous process - yes, achievement - no. getting a US citizenship in no way makes anyone a better human being or a more accomplished professional - so not an achievement.
in about 4 years or so - i would be at a decision point of whether to take US Citizenship or not......i dont think I am mentally ready to relinquish my Indian passport....to me it represents a 5,000 year old civilization with rich history and heritage and yet in many ways a young country poised to take the leap into its rightful place among the community of nations.....if it works out i would like to go back and be a part of that leap but even if i am here..when that happens - i would want to be able to proudly wear my Indian identity (and if I am a US citizen and still try to wear the Indian national identity - it would make me a hypocrite!).......
Some food for thought - Laxmi Mittal and Amartya Sen carry Indian Passports!
PS: I am willing to concede that i may be singing a different tune in 4 years
BUT, when one makes a decision to immigrate - he/she's not just making that decision for himself - but also for his/her spawns and the future generations to come. Is it fair for us to rob them of (well, i know most american born desi kids don't care a rats ass about going/being in India) - what it feels to be an Indian at Heart? what it 'Really' feels like to be watching/talking cricket/movies on 'em gullies, what it's like to be eating gaadi chaat, what a festival should really feel/look like .. and a bunch of other stuff- -that happens only in India.
not trying to discount anyone's opinions .. it's just the internal dilemma that needs addressing
all excellent points by Vikram and american desi!
I personally think that many of us take the issue of citizenship less seriously than it ought to be........also some of us also seem to confuse the National & Historical identity ( being a Citizen of India) and the Cultural identity (street food, cricket matches, Hindi movies etc.)
Re - the original post - i dont agree that becoming a US citizen is an achievement - a test of your patience and diligence in going through the onerous process - yes, achievement - no. getting a US citizenship in no way makes anyone a better human being or a more accomplished professional - so not an achievement.
in about 4 years or so - i would be at a decision point of whether to take US Citizenship or not......i dont think I am mentally ready to relinquish my Indian passport....to me it represents a 5,000 year old civilization with rich history and heritage and yet in many ways a young country poised to take the leap into its rightful place among the community of nations.....if it works out i would like to go back and be a part of that leap but even if i am here..when that happens - i would want to be able to proudly wear my Indian identity (and if I am a US citizen and still try to wear the Indian national identity - it would make me a hypocrite!).......
Some food for thought - Laxmi Mittal and Amartya Sen carry Indian Passports!
PS: I am willing to concede that i may be singing a different tune in 4 years
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rkg000
04-19 09:54 PM
Found one more without good education.
Got to hand it to you man, your comments are Hilarious. You heard this .."Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me". You said USCIS is screwing you you by giving H1 and GC to these lesser degree fellas, and shame on them for doing this, yet you stand in line to get screwed by USCIS, everyday, again and again. And you are standing in line for what? the past 10 yrs only to get screwed everyday. I don't understand the desperation. Anyway, hope you get your GC soon. I don't know which is more fun for you, getting GC or standing in the line.
Got to hand it to you man, your comments are Hilarious. You heard this .."Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me". You said USCIS is screwing you you by giving H1 and GC to these lesser degree fellas, and shame on them for doing this, yet you stand in line to get screwed by USCIS, everyday, again and again. And you are standing in line for what? the past 10 yrs only to get screwed everyday. I don't understand the desperation. Anyway, hope you get your GC soon. I don't know which is more fun for you, getting GC or standing in the line.
RollingStone12
04-23 06:02 PM
because we have some so called important members like SNATHAN who are nothing but plain MORONs
I couldnt believe there are low level scum bags...highly educated scum bags like you are running around and itching and scratching for fight.
If its itching so badly please post your address...and there are lot of guys available here who can take care of your itching problem.
You were banned yesterday and today you opned another id...what a low level scum bag. But unfortunately other people can not stoop to your level. You win...:p
I couldnt believe there are low level scum bags...highly educated scum bags like you are running around and itching and scratching for fight.
If its itching so badly please post your address...and there are lot of guys available here who can take care of your itching problem.
You were banned yesterday and today you opned another id...what a low level scum bag. But unfortunately other people can not stoop to your level. You win...:p
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Green.Tech
06-19 06:13 PM
Please don't be. I am glad that I finally got a response!!
Thanks willwin.
Keep the phone lines ringing, folks!
Thanks willwin.
Keep the phone lines ringing, folks!
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gcisadawg
04-15 01:00 PM
No I wouldn't. Get it from the your child's pediatrician since they know the case history and will be able to word it correctly. Remember that the letter from the pediatrician is the basis which the certified civil curgeon for USCIS will use to apply for a waiver if he/she thinks it is necessary.
Sameet and others,
I checked with both pediatrician and Civil surgeon and they both are of the opinion that TST test would not impact a nursing mom.
My attorney told me that my wife needs to get back before her scheduled trip. This would incur huge costs plus it would be difficult to get the seat arrangements. ( We have a twins and we have seats with bassinets for the infants). My father is also travelling with her.
Is it possible to ask 1 month extension for RFE based on the difficulties. I'm EB3 IND PD 2003 and I dont think our I-485 is waiting for adjudication any time soon.
I've scheduled an infopass appointment tomorrow. What are the chances of getting an extension when I present my case to IO?
I'm worried and it makes us very anxious.
GCisaDawg
Sameet and others,
I checked with both pediatrician and Civil surgeon and they both are of the opinion that TST test would not impact a nursing mom.
My attorney told me that my wife needs to get back before her scheduled trip. This would incur huge costs plus it would be difficult to get the seat arrangements. ( We have a twins and we have seats with bassinets for the infants). My father is also travelling with her.
Is it possible to ask 1 month extension for RFE based on the difficulties. I'm EB3 IND PD 2003 and I dont think our I-485 is waiting for adjudication any time soon.
I've scheduled an infopass appointment tomorrow. What are the chances of getting an extension when I present my case to IO?
I'm worried and it makes us very anxious.
GCisaDawg
add78
04-28 09:57 AM
Any idea when this is going for voting?
Democrats are supporting this or not?
I would strongly suggest everyone to acquaint himself/herself with the legislative process and how a bill moves through different phases / steps before it becomes a law. You can find many postings documenting the process.
Right now it is just introduced in the senate. The problem for us is that Sen Durbin is Democratic Whip (i.e. Assistant Majority Leader) which gives him tremendous influence over garnering votes and referring which legislation to consider to the Majority Leader (Harry Reid in the Senate). Ultimately Reid decides which legislation get priority consideration. The fact that Grassley is a Republican and is close to the Minority Leader (I think) does not help us either. We will monitor the progress of the bill.
Democrats are supporting this or not?
I would strongly suggest everyone to acquaint himself/herself with the legislative process and how a bill moves through different phases / steps before it becomes a law. You can find many postings documenting the process.
Right now it is just introduced in the senate. The problem for us is that Sen Durbin is Democratic Whip (i.e. Assistant Majority Leader) which gives him tremendous influence over garnering votes and referring which legislation to consider to the Majority Leader (Harry Reid in the Senate). Ultimately Reid decides which legislation get priority consideration. The fact that Grassley is a Republican and is close to the Minority Leader (I think) does not help us either. We will monitor the progress of the bill.
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arrarrgee
07-17 02:53 PM
I agree with you immi...I would love to have that but i believe its not practical...coz as per existing laws there are 140k employement visas alloted per year...if you are gonna use uncaptured visas from the previous years then this number would be >140k.. which would require a change in the law...with the current govt in power (inspite of the President being pro immigration),Iraq war,elections,Anti immigration sentiments before elections,etc..i donot foresee it happeneing anytime soon... my $0.02
Lets ask Core not to just go with the temporary fix of July visa bulliten.
We might apply for EAD and AP but what if they throw our papers some where and repeat the same thing.
This time they will be very careful in issuing visa bulliten
In future very slow progression in visa dates...adjudicating cases very slowly always stating that due to july visa bulliten we have lots of cases ...we will not be able to do anything until we sort ou...blah blah...
This is not the fix
We should be firm with our goals...
Lets come up with some ideas....
Lets not ask what to do...lets think and come up with an idea...and then we shall decide if it works or not...
When some one first suggested flower campaign everyone took it as a joke...it was not implemented before some one sent the flowers and showed the receipt number...
I was following core for a long time...this the biggest response i have ever seen from the members...
Lets continue it...
My idea ...lets not just accept the temporary fix...we should fight the congress until they come up with a plan of fixing the GC issue.
The congress talks about fixing illegal immigration..Lets ask them to fix the legal immigration first.
Unless we are really strong about it...nothing can be accomplished..
They cant fix the existing legal system but they are ready with the plans of fixing illegal immigration...of course it failed but still they had big impact...
Lets ask Core not to just go with the temporary fix of July visa bulliten.
We might apply for EAD and AP but what if they throw our papers some where and repeat the same thing.
This time they will be very careful in issuing visa bulliten
In future very slow progression in visa dates...adjudicating cases very slowly always stating that due to july visa bulliten we have lots of cases ...we will not be able to do anything until we sort ou...blah blah...
This is not the fix
We should be firm with our goals...
Lets come up with some ideas....
Lets not ask what to do...lets think and come up with an idea...and then we shall decide if it works or not...
When some one first suggested flower campaign everyone took it as a joke...it was not implemented before some one sent the flowers and showed the receipt number...
I was following core for a long time...this the biggest response i have ever seen from the members...
Lets continue it...
My idea ...lets not just accept the temporary fix...we should fight the congress until they come up with a plan of fixing the GC issue.
The congress talks about fixing illegal immigration..Lets ask them to fix the legal immigration first.
Unless we are really strong about it...nothing can be accomplished..
They cant fix the existing legal system but they are ready with the plans of fixing illegal immigration...of course it failed but still they had big impact...
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mhtanim
02-13 03:19 PM
AFAIK, once you work on EAD, you can not be back on H1B. Please check this with your lawyer.
However what I do not know, and what my lawyer also could not answer till this point is, if after travelling abroad using AP, can one transfer same H1 to a new employer? I know it is possible to continue working on H1 with the same employer. But what if one need H1 transfer?
Suppose you work for Company A on H-1B. You get out of the U.S. and come back with AP. You become parolee at that time. File an H-1B extension with Employer A, get new I-94 that indicates your status is now H-1B.
6 months later, you get another job with Employer B. Since you already are on H-1B with Company A, you should be able to transfer your H-1B to Company B.
However what I do not know, and what my lawyer also could not answer till this point is, if after travelling abroad using AP, can one transfer same H1 to a new employer? I know it is possible to continue working on H1 with the same employer. But what if one need H1 transfer?
Suppose you work for Company A on H-1B. You get out of the U.S. and come back with AP. You become parolee at that time. File an H-1B extension with Employer A, get new I-94 that indicates your status is now H-1B.
6 months later, you get another job with Employer B. Since you already are on H-1B with Company A, you should be able to transfer your H-1B to Company B.
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PavanV
09-17 12:52 PM
Hey,
How are you folks able to view the live discussion ?, can somebody post me the link , i am at my office and would like to view/watch it .
thanks
How are you folks able to view the live discussion ?, can somebody post me the link , i am at my office and would like to view/watch it .
thanks
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JazzByTheBay
01-11 12:41 AM
"We are ready to donate, if...." is the wrongest line of thought - if there ever was one. If you believe in a cause, you donate - it's never conditional.
Donating is generally associated with charity - you don't benefit from it directly. [Don't pull up the dictionary for this.. this is more about the spirit of the term rather than the literal definitions.]
So you're not really donating to Immigration Voice. Donating is the wrong term to use!
What you're doing is contributing - to an effort that's likely to benefit you directly. It's not for educating children in a poor African or Asian nation, or for the welfare of some community struck by a natural calamity, or for breast cancer research. It's for something that can potentially benefit you directly. I use the word potentially because it's no guarantee IV will succeed in its endeavors in the time frame you and I have in mind.
IV does not control the USCIS or the DoS or the lawmakers, so it can't really grant your wishes or conditions for contributing.
With that in mind, if you believe IV is one organization that's working for its members, you can join the effort by contributing whatever you can.
Or, if I may say so, quit whining. All this whining in forums reminds me of the story of the guy who was about to drown in the ocean and kept on praying to God to come and save him, ignoring the different saviors God sent to rescue him. Or the guy who kept on praying to God that he could win the lottery - but never went and bought a lottery ticket! If you're waiting for God to magically place the winning lottery ticket in your wallet or closet, I have a bridge to sell you.
As far as the red and green dots in your profile go - just ignore them!
jazz
You are right..it takes time and effort, and money too. We are ready to donate, if we are allowed to file EAD after 140 clearance immeditely, ,irrespective of EB-2 or EB-3. However, do not reply saying that you need to donate first as this is not how we think. There are a whole bunch of friends who are of the same opinion.
And what is this with so many reds besides my name..wat is this?? Ppl venting their own Frustration on others.
Donating is generally associated with charity - you don't benefit from it directly. [Don't pull up the dictionary for this.. this is more about the spirit of the term rather than the literal definitions.]
So you're not really donating to Immigration Voice. Donating is the wrong term to use!
What you're doing is contributing - to an effort that's likely to benefit you directly. It's not for educating children in a poor African or Asian nation, or for the welfare of some community struck by a natural calamity, or for breast cancer research. It's for something that can potentially benefit you directly. I use the word potentially because it's no guarantee IV will succeed in its endeavors in the time frame you and I have in mind.
IV does not control the USCIS or the DoS or the lawmakers, so it can't really grant your wishes or conditions for contributing.
With that in mind, if you believe IV is one organization that's working for its members, you can join the effort by contributing whatever you can.
Or, if I may say so, quit whining. All this whining in forums reminds me of the story of the guy who was about to drown in the ocean and kept on praying to God to come and save him, ignoring the different saviors God sent to rescue him. Or the guy who kept on praying to God that he could win the lottery - but never went and bought a lottery ticket! If you're waiting for God to magically place the winning lottery ticket in your wallet or closet, I have a bridge to sell you.
As far as the red and green dots in your profile go - just ignore them!
jazz
You are right..it takes time and effort, and money too. We are ready to donate, if we are allowed to file EAD after 140 clearance immeditely, ,irrespective of EB-2 or EB-3. However, do not reply saying that you need to donate first as this is not how we think. There are a whole bunch of friends who are of the same opinion.
And what is this with so many reds besides my name..wat is this?? Ppl venting their own Frustration on others.
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srikondoji
06-07 12:38 PM
In same vein, driving on road is privillege not a right.
With 'privillege' you have to follow existing rules religiously then if it was a 'right'.
In anycase, what we can only do with existing law is work with law makers and not protest.
Thanks again for nice discussion.
With 'privillege' you have to follow existing rules religiously then if it was a 'right'.
In anycase, what we can only do with existing law is work with law makers and not protest.
Thanks again for nice discussion.
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lvinaykumar
07-14 04:19 AM
http://digg.com/politics/The_Gandhi_Protests
come on guys we have only 14 diggs till now. We are a group of 10000 ppl strong and digg is a quite popular website. Couple of hundred diggs we will get to the main page....
Thanks for you support
come on guys we have only 14 diggs till now. We are a group of 10000 ppl strong and digg is a quite popular website. Couple of hundred diggs we will get to the main page....
Thanks for you support
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B3NKobe
06-05 08:24 PM
hey B3NKobe, have you submitted something yet?
Nope - I will, the deadline is 1st July, iv got plenty of time.
Nope - I will, the deadline is 1st July, iv got plenty of time.
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gans
07-11 12:23 PM
For the rally, I think some members were looking for poster ideas. I just thought of some :
Legal immigrants deserve 'honesty' (like 'amnesty')
Skilled immigrants' aspirations 'killed'
Green card applicants see Red
I will try to come up with some more. If it's not good, no worries, I wouldn't take it personally:)
Legal immigrants deserve 'honesty' (like 'amnesty')
Skilled immigrants' aspirations 'killed'
Green card applicants see Red
I will try to come up with some more. If it's not good, no worries, I wouldn't take it personally:)
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syzygy
01-31 01:18 PM
And I am sure Members of Staff of Presidential Candidates must be looking at top questions right now.
The questions have moved to 5 and 16 now, under most popular.
The questions have moved to 5 and 16 now, under most popular.
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gc_kaavaali
12-12 09:10 PM
I don't think people will get attracted by summarizing what we are doing...people should realize what we are doing...there is a difference...
The web site should be sufficient in providing information of a general nature.
More specific information and details should be available to members.
That's how many organizations operate, including AILA.
It's not just about the forums, this could come with a lot more benefits.
The web site should be sufficient in providing information of a general nature.
More specific information and details should be available to members.
That's how many organizations operate, including AILA.
It's not just about the forums, this could come with a lot more benefits.
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alisa
03-10 06:47 PM
Please realize that
a) immigrationvoice.com is a tool for the Immigration Voice organization. This website/forum has 10K members, and in any population of 10,000 people, you will get all sorts and kinds of people. There will be no unanimity of views. So, when it doesn't cost to express an opinion, you will get lots of opinions.
As we get more and more members, the number of opinions is only going to increase.
ImmigrationVoice Organization on the other hand, consists of some influential core members who have been working on EB-based issues for more than a year. This organization also has some active state chapters.
I would request you and your like-minded friend not to confuse the organization with the website.
Join the organization. Thats what matters. The website is only a tool.
b) The REAL POWER of this organization will lie in its state chapters. Trust me. If you sit with ten people you know, and talk about these issues, and resolve to do something about the situation, and come up with an action plan and an operating mechanism, that will be where the strength of IV lies.
This forum provides good live information (when there is a senate testimony, or call Senator session's office campaign going on), and sometimes useful information and announcements.
But most of the time, you will get opinions, and comic relief from here.
Friend of mine (to whom I contacted regarding IV) is in USA for 7 years and knows how lobbying & party funds are raised (including Watergate) and also very much aware of "Retrogression" and problems of being "Legal".
Also, he is aware of cause of IV and appreciate that but he is un-comfortable because whenever he login to IV, he noticed that:
- more than 40-50% respondents are talking about money/contributions & signatures showing how much they have contributed as of today,
- 10-15% are talking about blocking non-contributors(calling by Free Lunchers etc..),
- 5 % are Pseudo intellectuals (talking BIG but dont know immigration basics like - PD, issues of I-140/I485)
- 5% are always trying to shutdown others, accusing/calling by names to other forum members (he says "Highly skilled" in accusing!!)
- and remaining are "Positive" contributors for IVs retrogression cause (talking about - I spoke to senators office, can we arrange rallies, when to Fax/fliers, when State chapters are going to meet, posting excerpts from senate/CSPAN/News etc..)
Is our audience is so? Can we focus on our cause? pl be together like.. Like-Minded!!!
a) immigrationvoice.com is a tool for the Immigration Voice organization. This website/forum has 10K members, and in any population of 10,000 people, you will get all sorts and kinds of people. There will be no unanimity of views. So, when it doesn't cost to express an opinion, you will get lots of opinions.
As we get more and more members, the number of opinions is only going to increase.
ImmigrationVoice Organization on the other hand, consists of some influential core members who have been working on EB-based issues for more than a year. This organization also has some active state chapters.
I would request you and your like-minded friend not to confuse the organization with the website.
Join the organization. Thats what matters. The website is only a tool.
b) The REAL POWER of this organization will lie in its state chapters. Trust me. If you sit with ten people you know, and talk about these issues, and resolve to do something about the situation, and come up with an action plan and an operating mechanism, that will be where the strength of IV lies.
This forum provides good live information (when there is a senate testimony, or call Senator session's office campaign going on), and sometimes useful information and announcements.
But most of the time, you will get opinions, and comic relief from here.
Friend of mine (to whom I contacted regarding IV) is in USA for 7 years and knows how lobbying & party funds are raised (including Watergate) and also very much aware of "Retrogression" and problems of being "Legal".
Also, he is aware of cause of IV and appreciate that but he is un-comfortable because whenever he login to IV, he noticed that:
- more than 40-50% respondents are talking about money/contributions & signatures showing how much they have contributed as of today,
- 10-15% are talking about blocking non-contributors(calling by Free Lunchers etc..),
- 5 % are Pseudo intellectuals (talking BIG but dont know immigration basics like - PD, issues of I-140/I485)
- 5% are always trying to shutdown others, accusing/calling by names to other forum members (he says "Highly skilled" in accusing!!)
- and remaining are "Positive" contributors for IVs retrogression cause (talking about - I spoke to senators office, can we arrange rallies, when to Fax/fliers, when State chapters are going to meet, posting excerpts from senate/CSPAN/News etc..)
Is our audience is so? Can we focus on our cause? pl be together like.. Like-Minded!!!
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09-17 11:42 AM
Any more updates?
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caliguy
10-30 12:42 PM
I dont remember seeing this response but to me it sounds promising.
Please continue to follow up, and in the meantime, send a letter to everyone you can (senator/USCIS sec./first lady/go for Infopass).
Edit: Forgot to mention, please print out the email response from CIS Ombudsman and put it as a supporting document when you send your case details to USCIS Sec. and others. Any response you get from USCIS, you should put it as a supporting document when you send your case details to higher authorities.
I think its only a matter of time before your case gets approved. Good luck!
I sent #7001 form in second week of October , i emailed CIS Ombudsman3-4 days back . I received this email today....
Thank you for contacting
the Citizenship and Immigration Services Ombudsman (CISOMB) in the U.S.
Department of Homeland Security (DHS). We received your case problem on
October 21, 2009. Your case is in the process of being assigned to an
Immigration Law Analyst. Please allow us 14 working days to process your case
problem
Any thoughts....does it mean anything? anyone else with this reply?
Thanks
Please continue to follow up, and in the meantime, send a letter to everyone you can (senator/USCIS sec./first lady/go for Infopass).
Edit: Forgot to mention, please print out the email response from CIS Ombudsman and put it as a supporting document when you send your case details to USCIS Sec. and others. Any response you get from USCIS, you should put it as a supporting document when you send your case details to higher authorities.
I think its only a matter of time before your case gets approved. Good luck!
I sent #7001 form in second week of October , i emailed CIS Ombudsman3-4 days back . I received this email today....
Thank you for contacting
the Citizenship and Immigration Services Ombudsman (CISOMB) in the U.S.
Department of Homeland Security (DHS). We received your case problem on
October 21, 2009. Your case is in the process of being assigned to an
Immigration Law Analyst. Please allow us 14 working days to process your case
problem
Any thoughts....does it mean anything? anyone else with this reply?
Thanks
Bradman
10-19 02:58 PM
Write to Mr. Bush (no kidding). They will send an inquiry to FBI and you will get something from FBI NNCP (name check division). If that does not help, file a lawsuit against USCIS/FBI. Or you can file a lawsuit first and then write a letter to save some time. The lawsuit will get things moving. The do-it-yourself guide is located here:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/FBI_name_check
I just wrote to the President & White House today. Let me see what they have to offer on this...
Appreciate your advise !!!
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/FBI_name_check
I just wrote to the President & White House today. Let me see what they have to offer on this...
Appreciate your advise !!!
B3NKobe
06-12 08:10 AM
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