n2b
07-18 01:07 PM
Pd: Oct 2005
Reached Nsc: 7/2 9:01 AM
Rejected: Don Know
Ck Cashed: Not Yet
Reached Nsc: 7/2 9:01 AM
Rejected: Don Know
Ck Cashed: Not Yet
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munnu77
06-11 03:06 PM
Firstly, I am not a lawyer and I would recommend that you get a lawyer to help out.
As mentioned before this is a civil lawsuit and not a crimial lawsuit. Impact on GC should not be a factor but consult an immigration lawyer.
Now depending on the state law you should not be liable for Cars2 through Cars7. It could easily be argued that they did not leave a safe distance between them and hence the ripple effect. What the insurance determines is the fault is not necessarily how the law would interpret it. So if you insurance of any of the car insurance assign percentages of fault, it is pretty much based on their calculations. Did you recieve a traffic citation? If so did it indicate that you were at fault for all the subsequent accidents? Did you contest the citation? If so what was the outcome. If you contested the citation and got the charges dropped you have a stronger case against each of the other plaintiffs.
Try to settle out of court and get the lawyers to drop the case. The way you do that is to claim that you don't have any money. Remember the lawyers for each of the plaintiffs have done an asset check on you and they know how much you have. Although the judge could request that each of the transactions to reverse. Do the following:
Read this post: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=249649#post249649
1. Take out second mortage on the house (if you own it) and transfer cash to a relative's name in India
2. Sell cars and lease new cars
3. Cash savings etc should be transferred to relative's names in India.
Show the lawyers you don't have any money and they will not be able to recover their fees from this lawsuit. Do not capitualte to threats. Instead offer to settle out of court. Let them come up with the offer and then bargain like hell.
I hope this helps. If you need to talk more send me a private message.
just curious..y cant he put his money in his bank account in india..
do american law have control over indian banks or can they check his assets in india..do they have the power to do tht..
i thought they can only mess with hos assts inside USA
As mentioned before this is a civil lawsuit and not a crimial lawsuit. Impact on GC should not be a factor but consult an immigration lawyer.
Now depending on the state law you should not be liable for Cars2 through Cars7. It could easily be argued that they did not leave a safe distance between them and hence the ripple effect. What the insurance determines is the fault is not necessarily how the law would interpret it. So if you insurance of any of the car insurance assign percentages of fault, it is pretty much based on their calculations. Did you recieve a traffic citation? If so did it indicate that you were at fault for all the subsequent accidents? Did you contest the citation? If so what was the outcome. If you contested the citation and got the charges dropped you have a stronger case against each of the other plaintiffs.
Try to settle out of court and get the lawyers to drop the case. The way you do that is to claim that you don't have any money. Remember the lawyers for each of the plaintiffs have done an asset check on you and they know how much you have. Although the judge could request that each of the transactions to reverse. Do the following:
Read this post: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=249649#post249649
1. Take out second mortage on the house (if you own it) and transfer cash to a relative's name in India
2. Sell cars and lease new cars
3. Cash savings etc should be transferred to relative's names in India.
Show the lawyers you don't have any money and they will not be able to recover their fees from this lawsuit. Do not capitualte to threats. Instead offer to settle out of court. Let them come up with the offer and then bargain like hell.
I hope this helps. If you need to talk more send me a private message.
just curious..y cant he put his money in his bank account in india..
do american law have control over indian banks or can they check his assets in india..do they have the power to do tht..
i thought they can only mess with hos assts inside USA
i4u
11-23 11:57 AM
Thank you for your inputs....However, not sure if it helps. I have to get my mother here - if not immediately, sometime in the near future. She has diabetes and almost every thing that happens medically, it can be related to diabetes technically! Which is why I have to have insurance.
On another note, I have a friend who is very close to a doctor - and I hear from my friend that many of the doctors help out (if they know them - outside of the office). Is this something anyone in this forum have experienced or heard?
On another note, I have a friend who is very close to a doctor - and I hear from my friend that many of the doctors help out (if they know them - outside of the office). Is this something anyone in this forum have experienced or heard?
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willwin
06-19 05:29 PM
I am not sure willwin. Sorry :confused:
Please don't be. I am glad that I finally got a response!!
Please don't be. I am glad that I finally got a response!!
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rimzhim
01-29 07:03 PM
Why will it move PDs faster than now? Thanks.
could it be that ppl will not be able to sneak in with pre-approved labor now? if there is a significant number doing that, the PDs will move faster. Congrats IV on this achievement!
could it be that ppl will not be able to sneak in with pre-approved labor now? if there is a significant number doing that, the PDs will move faster. Congrats IV on this achievement!
simple1
05-07 04:12 PM
congrads desi3933. Great achievement. Thanks for wishing the same for us.
All,
* Technically and Legally US is a corporation and federal-union not a country (union like UK, ussr, future-EU-federal-state etc). Even india is a union. not a country.
* Your state/UT (DC, PR etc) will be your actual country. All states have their own state-constitution.
Before commenting on the above two points, please take time to watch a great youtube video out there that explains the whole thing based on federal constitution. Search for “citizen 14th amendment” in youtube. When I get home, I will post the link.
Some personal thoughts (not legal technically etc),
* Your loyalty must be concentrated and focused on the state/UT (technically your country) you live. There was a great question asked to Kalam in his recent Seattle visit and his recent speech in WU campus kane hall. He says more than india, even NRI’s (indian citizens) must have loyalty primarily towards the local place they work and live (I assumed, specific to city/region, state/UT).
* be a proud Californian, Texan Etc (ineffect state citizen first before federal or ancestral, ethnical, etc). In effect not indian-american.
Finally I am a US citizen after being 10+ years in this country. This is one of my biggest fulfillments and it means everything to me. US is just not home anymore for me, it is my country.
I wish everyone the best and hope they get GC very soon.
Proud to be an indian-american and legal immigrant.
Good Luck!
All,
* Technically and Legally US is a corporation and federal-union not a country (union like UK, ussr, future-EU-federal-state etc). Even india is a union. not a country.
* Your state/UT (DC, PR etc) will be your actual country. All states have their own state-constitution.
Before commenting on the above two points, please take time to watch a great youtube video out there that explains the whole thing based on federal constitution. Search for “citizen 14th amendment” in youtube. When I get home, I will post the link.
Some personal thoughts (not legal technically etc),
* Your loyalty must be concentrated and focused on the state/UT (technically your country) you live. There was a great question asked to Kalam in his recent Seattle visit and his recent speech in WU campus kane hall. He says more than india, even NRI’s (indian citizens) must have loyalty primarily towards the local place they work and live (I assumed, specific to city/region, state/UT).
* be a proud Californian, Texan Etc (ineffect state citizen first before federal or ancestral, ethnical, etc). In effect not indian-american.
Finally I am a US citizen after being 10+ years in this country. This is one of my biggest fulfillments and it means everything to me. US is just not home anymore for me, it is my country.
I wish everyone the best and hope they get GC very soon.
Proud to be an indian-american and legal immigrant.
Good Luck!
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satishku_2000
05-24 05:31 PM
Clinton and Obama voted for it.
Any idea what is the number of the amendment
Any idea what is the number of the amendment
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sammyb
01-31 12:59 PM
just curious to know what is the reason that 22 people till now didn't vote for the question ... what do you think could be the reason ...
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sodh
07-27 05:43 PM
Since UN is back, he is best person to answer all your ability to pay questions.
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dpp
11-01 04:05 PM
These things are not going to fly. Just go back and work. When time comes GC will come to your mail box, until then keep extending your status, work and enjoy the life. Why do you think too much and lose mental balance.
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B3NKobe
05-31 01:01 AM
hey linux boy, you weren't supposed to change the original hardware at all.
Yeah what he said, skin the ipod not mod it.
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Macaca
02-14 01:41 PM
There is no leadership problem in core : not a single thing, nada, zitto, zapata. Core has much better info for decision making then any non-core; the decision may be interim relief (I-485 filing, unused visa recapture, ...) or any thing else. My conclusion is based on my readings about immigration issues, our issue, current political situation and core posts. Core has correctly predicted Ag Jobs and Schedule A this month. We are wasting our time by debating this issue. Please educate yourself.
Core has not misused any contribution money; it is not easy to misuse contributions made to non-profit organization. Once again please educate yourself. Besides, how much contribution money is there? However, I have very serious problems with members when Aman says that he has spent 30-40K of his own money and logiclife says that he has spent his own money on travel : shame on all members who are still sitting on their $20 and debating all other issues.
I do have some issues with core. Some members are curious about finances and progress reports. It is much better to post such info (decided by core) rather then wasting time when someone asks about. At present, such info has been posted and is the best info available at this time.
I also have some issues with deleting posts. Based on the contents of deleted posts, I don't think the core has much to hide. Hence, it is better to let these posts exist rather then delete them. Members who agree with these posts should be free to debate. They will not hurt IV. Deleting posts has undermined the credibilty of core.
IV was founded by some some core and exists only because of their efforts. They have earned the right to make some decisions. Please understand that, everyone makes some mistakes and has some bad days. I request non-core to give then benefit of doubt on side shows and freak shows. We are wasting our time on these issues.
I have very serious problems with most members. Core is negotiating with a lobbying firm. I understand that QGA was paid 60K.
1. Where is the money for the lobbying firm?
2. Whose problem is it to arrange money for the lobbying firm?
3. How does discussing any issue in the forums help us in arranging money for the lobbying firm?
So non-core, please don't worry about core. Worry about yourself. You are doing a great dis-service to our cause by debating anything not covered by the folowing.
1. What are your responsibilties?
2. What are your results?
Core has not misused any contribution money; it is not easy to misuse contributions made to non-profit organization. Once again please educate yourself. Besides, how much contribution money is there? However, I have very serious problems with members when Aman says that he has spent 30-40K of his own money and logiclife says that he has spent his own money on travel : shame on all members who are still sitting on their $20 and debating all other issues.
I do have some issues with core. Some members are curious about finances and progress reports. It is much better to post such info (decided by core) rather then wasting time when someone asks about. At present, such info has been posted and is the best info available at this time.
I also have some issues with deleting posts. Based on the contents of deleted posts, I don't think the core has much to hide. Hence, it is better to let these posts exist rather then delete them. Members who agree with these posts should be free to debate. They will not hurt IV. Deleting posts has undermined the credibilty of core.
IV was founded by some some core and exists only because of their efforts. They have earned the right to make some decisions. Please understand that, everyone makes some mistakes and has some bad days. I request non-core to give then benefit of doubt on side shows and freak shows. We are wasting our time on these issues.
I have very serious problems with most members. Core is negotiating with a lobbying firm. I understand that QGA was paid 60K.
1. Where is the money for the lobbying firm?
2. Whose problem is it to arrange money for the lobbying firm?
3. How does discussing any issue in the forums help us in arranging money for the lobbying firm?
So non-core, please don't worry about core. Worry about yourself. You are doing a great dis-service to our cause by debating anything not covered by the folowing.
1. What are your responsibilties?
2. What are your results?
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03-13 09:34 AM
could you please post the link to it. I can't find it. thanks
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HopeSprings
07-16 01:24 PM
Guests and members,
Please take the time to sign this petition so that it can be delivered to CNN as soon as possible.
Signed with a stinking message.
Please take the time to sign this petition so that it can be delivered to CNN as soon as possible.
Signed with a stinking message.
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learning01
02-01 12:53 PM
where there are no /nil/nada/zip GCs, it is a fault in the system. Because no disclosures are needed. They are the attorneys and future law makers. They are done with hi-tech workers, nurses. Now it is time to look for new 'bhakra'/'meka'/'aadu'
From ILW.com (http://www.ilw.com/seminars/december2006.shtm)
Physician Visas: What You Need To Know Now
Speakers: Gregory Siskind, Suzanne B. Seltzer, Joseph P. Curran, Jacqueline DeAndrus Bucar, Kristi L. Crawford, Eleanor M. Fitzpatrick, Benjamin T. Kurten, Chris Musillo, Ronald A. Nair, Jan Pederson, Donna Rae Richardson and Barry Walker.
Seminar Outline
Speaker bios
REGISTER NOW!
Each call features an hour of analysis, strategy and practice tips by Gregory Siskind, Suzanne B. Seltzer, Joseph P. Curran, Jacqueline DeAndrus Bucar, Kristi L. Crawford, Eleanor M. Fitzpatrick, Benjamin T. Kurten, Chris Musillo, Ronald A. Nair, Jan Pederson, Donna Rae Richardson and Barry Walker, followed by 30 minutes of questions and answers from participants.
SEMINAR OUTLINE
FIRST Phone Session on Dec 21, 2006: How to Immigrate as a Physician
� Credentialing and licensing: What does it take to be a US doctor? (ECFMG, residuary, USMLE)
� Entering to get credentialed
o B Visas
o F Visa - study centers
� Training
o From soup to nuts � how a doctor gets in to a residency program and gets to the US
o J-2 spouses
o H Visa - What's really required to be an H-1B resident? Which programs are subject to the H-1B cap?
o O Visa Can it work for a "training" position?
� J-1 Waivers
o HPSAs, MUAs, MHPSAs - understanding shortage areas
o Which federal government agencies sponsor waivers?
SECOND Phone Session on Jan 18, 2007: Hs, Os and Green Cards for Physicians
� J-1 Waivers
o I'm a specialist, where can I go?
o State 30 programs
o Waiver procedures - nuts and bolts
o Interaction of J waiver and NIW for underserved areas
o The impact of bi-specialization on waiver processing
� H-1Bs
o Basic requirements
o Cap issues for MDs
o Prevailing wage determinations
o Self-employment
� Os and other alternative non-immigrant categories
� Labor Certifications
� National Interest Waivers
� Other green card categories
THIRD Phone Session on Feb 1, 2007: Nurses and Legislative Update
� Nurses
o Non-immigrant options
o Green card options - impact of retrogression
o Credentialing update
o Consular processing issues
Legislative Update - The impact of comprehensive immigration reform on health care professions
REGISTER NOW
I agree with the initial post . But the market condition is such that it is very difficult to get qualified people for ERP/CRM applications so desi consultants get placed through desi companies .
From ILW.com (http://www.ilw.com/seminars/december2006.shtm)
Physician Visas: What You Need To Know Now
Speakers: Gregory Siskind, Suzanne B. Seltzer, Joseph P. Curran, Jacqueline DeAndrus Bucar, Kristi L. Crawford, Eleanor M. Fitzpatrick, Benjamin T. Kurten, Chris Musillo, Ronald A. Nair, Jan Pederson, Donna Rae Richardson and Barry Walker.
Seminar Outline
Speaker bios
REGISTER NOW!
Each call features an hour of analysis, strategy and practice tips by Gregory Siskind, Suzanne B. Seltzer, Joseph P. Curran, Jacqueline DeAndrus Bucar, Kristi L. Crawford, Eleanor M. Fitzpatrick, Benjamin T. Kurten, Chris Musillo, Ronald A. Nair, Jan Pederson, Donna Rae Richardson and Barry Walker, followed by 30 minutes of questions and answers from participants.
SEMINAR OUTLINE
FIRST Phone Session on Dec 21, 2006: How to Immigrate as a Physician
� Credentialing and licensing: What does it take to be a US doctor? (ECFMG, residuary, USMLE)
� Entering to get credentialed
o B Visas
o F Visa - study centers
� Training
o From soup to nuts � how a doctor gets in to a residency program and gets to the US
o J-2 spouses
o H Visa - What's really required to be an H-1B resident? Which programs are subject to the H-1B cap?
o O Visa Can it work for a "training" position?
� J-1 Waivers
o HPSAs, MUAs, MHPSAs - understanding shortage areas
o Which federal government agencies sponsor waivers?
SECOND Phone Session on Jan 18, 2007: Hs, Os and Green Cards for Physicians
� J-1 Waivers
o I'm a specialist, where can I go?
o State 30 programs
o Waiver procedures - nuts and bolts
o Interaction of J waiver and NIW for underserved areas
o The impact of bi-specialization on waiver processing
� H-1Bs
o Basic requirements
o Cap issues for MDs
o Prevailing wage determinations
o Self-employment
� Os and other alternative non-immigrant categories
� Labor Certifications
� National Interest Waivers
� Other green card categories
THIRD Phone Session on Feb 1, 2007: Nurses and Legislative Update
� Nurses
o Non-immigrant options
o Green card options - impact of retrogression
o Credentialing update
o Consular processing issues
Legislative Update - The impact of comprehensive immigration reform on health care professions
REGISTER NOW
I agree with the initial post . But the market condition is such that it is very difficult to get qualified people for ERP/CRM applications so desi consultants get placed through desi companies .
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madhu_online1
01-17 04:46 PM
I will be affected since I came to this country through body shop and this affects my I-485.
I think there is a lack of direction as to what we people on H1 can do. We need to unite and fight otherwise we must be ready to go back. I am not ready to go back.
I am donating money for this cause.
I think there is a lack of direction as to what we people on H1 can do. We need to unite and fight otherwise we must be ready to go back. I am not ready to go back.
I am donating money for this cause.
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whoever
02-07 12:55 PM
I predict the movement of PD for april'07 will be significant for EB2 India, EB3 ROW for sure. They would not hold up everyone in EB2 India, EB3 ROW at the current priority dates.
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Leo07
12-01 01:18 PM
Folks,
I know many of you may have already thought about this at some point. I'll lay out my views on the donations...IV can object/correct.
I'm following the donations thread along with many of you and there is not much to be excited there.2000$ in 2 weeks....for all the Agenda that pappu has posted. I understand that everyone(including me)...will have limited resources at our disposal every month...may it be mortgage/daycare/medical/school or those unexpected repairs...so the bottom line is there is not much room to increase our monthly contributions or...holiday contributions.
I was thinking...we are 25000 'real' people...and there are more than one visit by each person to this site.
1. Can IV use any space to advertise...so that IV can get some AD Money?
2. Is it possible to get some space on popular pro-immigrant or immigrant driven websites...to donate to our cause?
3. Would it be possible to split the donation denominations further down...like 5 dollars..or even low..so that all immigrants...including people who got the GC's/Citizenship can contribute with out looking deeper into their pockets.
4. Optional....ebay/paypal donation to the peoples questions/answers...Mind you it is totally optional...if you want to donate 5/10/20/100...or how important the question is and hw satisfied the person is with the information...etc
5. DOnation boxes at Immigrant owned grocery stores...with out compromising their principles
Folks, I have layed them out with good intentions...and have also given a thought of what I personally can do for each point above...I'm not expecting the vultures to prey...on the post with mundane comments.
Regards.
I know many of you may have already thought about this at some point. I'll lay out my views on the donations...IV can object/correct.
I'm following the donations thread along with many of you and there is not much to be excited there.2000$ in 2 weeks....for all the Agenda that pappu has posted. I understand that everyone(including me)...will have limited resources at our disposal every month...may it be mortgage/daycare/medical/school or those unexpected repairs...so the bottom line is there is not much room to increase our monthly contributions or...holiday contributions.
I was thinking...we are 25000 'real' people...and there are more than one visit by each person to this site.
1. Can IV use any space to advertise...so that IV can get some AD Money?
2. Is it possible to get some space on popular pro-immigrant or immigrant driven websites...to donate to our cause?
3. Would it be possible to split the donation denominations further down...like 5 dollars..or even low..so that all immigrants...including people who got the GC's/Citizenship can contribute with out looking deeper into their pockets.
4. Optional....ebay/paypal donation to the peoples questions/answers...Mind you it is totally optional...if you want to donate 5/10/20/100...or how important the question is and hw satisfied the person is with the information...etc
5. DOnation boxes at Immigrant owned grocery stores...with out compromising their principles
Folks, I have layed them out with good intentions...and have also given a thought of what I personally can do for each point above...I'm not expecting the vultures to prey...on the post with mundane comments.
Regards.
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eb3_2004
04-27 07:39 AM
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/04/27/h-1b-j-1-immigrants-more-productive-than-americans-study-says/?mod=rss_WSJBlog
concorde
03-10 03:03 AM
This is in reference to a thread about feeling depressed by retrogression or labor backlogs to stuck FBI namechecks or whatever it is that depresses you. Not criticizing anyone in particular so dont aim for me.
Yes, and a lot of people know that there are highly skilled people who are depressed and that takes a toll on employee productivity.
After all, if 90% of your time is spent on thinking about BECs and visa bulletins, imagine if that time was spent on doing the job they've hired you for.
Some employers(like Microsoft) realize this and want to do something about it. Its not just about keeping the best and brightest here in USA. Its also about keeping the morale and productivity up.
As to how to deal with this...try this.
Call your local congressman's office(Find out info about that from House.gov, with your zipcode). Get an appointment with congressman. There is an Easter recess coming up when they would be back from DC.
Then talk to him about all issues you have. Take all the material you need from the "Volunteer" menu item of this website.
Doing something about the problem is the best therapy there is. I am not saying this because I want to coax you into meeting your congressman. No. That's not the objective. But I think action is the best remedy for this problem. And there is actionable stuff to do about this. If you are suffering from terminal cancer, then you really cant do anything about that. This is not such a problem. This is a problem for which the solution is out there.
Somehow, after landing in this country, people lose the appetite for risk and adventure. Before they are in here, they would move mountains to score an H1 or an F1. After coming here, they hunker down, heads-under-the-desk kind of approach. What I am talking about is nearly 200 people right now, who have read this post, but havent logged in. They wouldnt log in. They wouldnt give their real email address if they sign up. They would never contribute. WHY? Because they are afraid. That they will be deported. For no reason. Everything we do is legal, including raising funds and spending it on lobbying. But they are afraid. They are also afraid that by talking to congressmen, they will make them mad and the congressman will pick up the phone, call USCIS and then get their 140 cancelled. Yes. People create their own fastasies and become afraid of them..
Yesterday, nearly 2000 Irish illegals went to capitol hill (http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/frontpage/2007/0308/1173121325488.html)and talked to various lawmakers to lobby for CIR and legalization. They were illegals. Yet, the somehow managed to walk into the building where laws of this country are made, talk to people who make the laws that they have broken, go thru Capitol Hill security check, and look into the eye of the lawmaker and talk to them.
However, our community, this is how they behave. Forget about talking to congressman, or contributing money. When they call the core group with a question, they block the caller id can call. Dont disclose their name too. Ask a questions and then quickely hang up. Some of them want to contribute with cash because they are not willing to believe us that we are doing everything legal here and its their right to lobbying and petition the Government for problems.
After paying taxes, after following all immigration laws, after getting all the education in the world to become "Highly skilled", the highly skilled cant bring themselves to stand-up with a straight spine, thump their desk and talk to their lawmaker.
So at the end of the day, if we are depressed that legals dont get attention, then you know where to look for blame : the highly skilled who are highly educated and too afraid because their education and skills make them think too much and analyze too much, and they are afraid all the time.
logic, Very interesting to read this..good post.... but this got me thinking in retrospect; how many of us have voted back home? How many of us know how laws are made back home or made an effort to become involved in the law making process back home? Other than for a favour I wonder how many have picked up the phone and dialed the MLA or MP ("our" lawmakers in the true sense) on a law making issue. How many of us have filed taxes or even know what filing taxes means back home? :) Guys, don't aim for me, I am just reflecting on the views put forth in in logic's post. My point is, being judgmental is not going to get anybody anywhere. I am not really sure who is afraid..who isn't etc. Perhaps none of us has the courage to hang our boots here, go back and become the next LN Mittal or Bill Gates?..open the next Microsoft, Oracle etc :)?. I admit that I definitely don't have the courage otherwise I definitely wouldn't be here in the first place. The "their lawmaker" quoted somewhere in the above post doesn't hold good in the true sense. The most promising solution is to approach the CEOs of big businesses so they can contact "their lawmakers". I know that employees in Microsoft have approached and talked to Bill Gates on this issue. I will try to do the same at my employer. Let us all do that with our respective employers. I know that we will be afraid to do this and it is natural...after all things could backfire and we might get fired for talking to the CEO :-).
Yes, and a lot of people know that there are highly skilled people who are depressed and that takes a toll on employee productivity.
After all, if 90% of your time is spent on thinking about BECs and visa bulletins, imagine if that time was spent on doing the job they've hired you for.
Some employers(like Microsoft) realize this and want to do something about it. Its not just about keeping the best and brightest here in USA. Its also about keeping the morale and productivity up.
As to how to deal with this...try this.
Call your local congressman's office(Find out info about that from House.gov, with your zipcode). Get an appointment with congressman. There is an Easter recess coming up when they would be back from DC.
Then talk to him about all issues you have. Take all the material you need from the "Volunteer" menu item of this website.
Doing something about the problem is the best therapy there is. I am not saying this because I want to coax you into meeting your congressman. No. That's not the objective. But I think action is the best remedy for this problem. And there is actionable stuff to do about this. If you are suffering from terminal cancer, then you really cant do anything about that. This is not such a problem. This is a problem for which the solution is out there.
Somehow, after landing in this country, people lose the appetite for risk and adventure. Before they are in here, they would move mountains to score an H1 or an F1. After coming here, they hunker down, heads-under-the-desk kind of approach. What I am talking about is nearly 200 people right now, who have read this post, but havent logged in. They wouldnt log in. They wouldnt give their real email address if they sign up. They would never contribute. WHY? Because they are afraid. That they will be deported. For no reason. Everything we do is legal, including raising funds and spending it on lobbying. But they are afraid. They are also afraid that by talking to congressmen, they will make them mad and the congressman will pick up the phone, call USCIS and then get their 140 cancelled. Yes. People create their own fastasies and become afraid of them..
Yesterday, nearly 2000 Irish illegals went to capitol hill (http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/frontpage/2007/0308/1173121325488.html)and talked to various lawmakers to lobby for CIR and legalization. They were illegals. Yet, the somehow managed to walk into the building where laws of this country are made, talk to people who make the laws that they have broken, go thru Capitol Hill security check, and look into the eye of the lawmaker and talk to them.
However, our community, this is how they behave. Forget about talking to congressman, or contributing money. When they call the core group with a question, they block the caller id can call. Dont disclose their name too. Ask a questions and then quickely hang up. Some of them want to contribute with cash because they are not willing to believe us that we are doing everything legal here and its their right to lobbying and petition the Government for problems.
After paying taxes, after following all immigration laws, after getting all the education in the world to become "Highly skilled", the highly skilled cant bring themselves to stand-up with a straight spine, thump their desk and talk to their lawmaker.
So at the end of the day, if we are depressed that legals dont get attention, then you know where to look for blame : the highly skilled who are highly educated and too afraid because their education and skills make them think too much and analyze too much, and they are afraid all the time.
logic, Very interesting to read this..good post.... but this got me thinking in retrospect; how many of us have voted back home? How many of us know how laws are made back home or made an effort to become involved in the law making process back home? Other than for a favour I wonder how many have picked up the phone and dialed the MLA or MP ("our" lawmakers in the true sense) on a law making issue. How many of us have filed taxes or even know what filing taxes means back home? :) Guys, don't aim for me, I am just reflecting on the views put forth in in logic's post. My point is, being judgmental is not going to get anybody anywhere. I am not really sure who is afraid..who isn't etc. Perhaps none of us has the courage to hang our boots here, go back and become the next LN Mittal or Bill Gates?..open the next Microsoft, Oracle etc :)?. I admit that I definitely don't have the courage otherwise I definitely wouldn't be here in the first place. The "their lawmaker" quoted somewhere in the above post doesn't hold good in the true sense. The most promising solution is to approach the CEOs of big businesses so they can contact "their lawmakers". I know that employees in Microsoft have approached and talked to Bill Gates on this issue. I will try to do the same at my employer. Let us all do that with our respective employers. I know that we will be afraid to do this and it is natural...after all things could backfire and we might get fired for talking to the CEO :-).
jnraajan
03-13 01:28 PM
When you join a state chapter or a group in your area, it is not necessary to conduct face-to-face meetings everyday/every week, although in person meetings wouldn't hurt. The idea is to create a channel to dissipate information through channels other than WWW. Believe it or not, there are lot many folks from anti-groups who lurk around just to keep an eye on us. Participating or becoming part of the group near to you and encourage others to do the same will also help to build/strength a group of like minded folks in the area who could then team-up to meet with local lawmakers from your area/state. We are a grass roots organization and we need to have a stronger grassroots in order to continue to be more effective. As I said earlier, this channel also is very useful to dissipate information which cannot be shared on world wide web.
Now a days when everybody has presidential election on their mind, immigration issue is not on the list of things to do for most lawmakers. As such, it takes time for the updates and the there are updates that cannot be disclosed on www. We continue to work on our issues in manner we have always worked in the past. And in the absence of Congress not taking up our immigration issues, it some how becomes our fault even though it is ok if some folks would show up from time to time and suggest that they have reasons not to join a google or a yahoo group. And all of a sudden the problem is with organization and the manner in which we work and then there is an urgent to create a �process�. Although you seem to be suggesting that you want all the ducks in the row and world peace issues sorted out before you will start accepting updates in exactly the manner in which you like to receive them. Is that correct? How about the idea of getting actively involved in your area and create an active chapter, which was your idea to begin with, and one I would agree is an excellent idea.
It is of'course a valid question - �what is going on�. Also it is a very general statement and one which can have a very long answer and one which can be answered in few words. If you become part of a group in your area, you will know what is going on. Please understand that a significant number of members are putting lot of effort, if others are not able to participate actively, is it not fair to ask others to help in organizing in groups in the local area and be regular communication so that action items could be handled effectively?
I agree with most of your comments here. I am more realistic than most people here in the forums. So, I dont want all ducks in a row and world peace issues sorted out. Because, I know that is not happening anytime soon.
True, in a election year and with all the anti-immigration sentiments around, it is highly unlikely that something will happen in the near future. So, NO. I am not waiting to see some success, before I join the band wagon. When you started IV a few years back, I am not sure you envisioned this many members today. Inspite of having over 25000 members, the admin fix compaign only seem to have received about 10% letters. So, What are the other members doing? Why are they not participating? what is holding them back? That is a question for everyone of us. That is something, I thought every member should reflect upon. We have around 25000 members here in IV. But, we know for a fact that there are atleast a million people waiting in line. How do we reach them and how to get them to actively participate in IV action items?
Like you said, IV is a grass roots organization and it is up to the members to make things happen. But how? Apart from these action items for admin fixes etc, Can't IV have a membership drive? Get more people to join IV and contribute.
I know for a fact, that there are so many people here in Nebraska who have no clue about IV. I have been educating them when I get an opportunity. A Local Chapter could easily solve the problem. But, until now, I had no clue as to what is required to start a chapter. (Thank you Walking_dude). Answers to questions like this is what I meant by transaparency. Not the accounts or donations, as someone suggested in this forum.
Also, When I suggested about honarary payments to core team, I am not trying to belitte anyone in the team. I just thought, that you and other members of the core team should be compensated for all the efforts you put in. After all, these efforts and money you spend is going to benefit me and every other aspiring immigrant of this country. So, It was just a thought.
I will try my best to lay the foundations of IV presence here in NE. I would welcome any suggestions and comments.
Now a days when everybody has presidential election on their mind, immigration issue is not on the list of things to do for most lawmakers. As such, it takes time for the updates and the there are updates that cannot be disclosed on www. We continue to work on our issues in manner we have always worked in the past. And in the absence of Congress not taking up our immigration issues, it some how becomes our fault even though it is ok if some folks would show up from time to time and suggest that they have reasons not to join a google or a yahoo group. And all of a sudden the problem is with organization and the manner in which we work and then there is an urgent to create a �process�. Although you seem to be suggesting that you want all the ducks in the row and world peace issues sorted out before you will start accepting updates in exactly the manner in which you like to receive them. Is that correct? How about the idea of getting actively involved in your area and create an active chapter, which was your idea to begin with, and one I would agree is an excellent idea.
It is of'course a valid question - �what is going on�. Also it is a very general statement and one which can have a very long answer and one which can be answered in few words. If you become part of a group in your area, you will know what is going on. Please understand that a significant number of members are putting lot of effort, if others are not able to participate actively, is it not fair to ask others to help in organizing in groups in the local area and be regular communication so that action items could be handled effectively?
I agree with most of your comments here. I am more realistic than most people here in the forums. So, I dont want all ducks in a row and world peace issues sorted out. Because, I know that is not happening anytime soon.
True, in a election year and with all the anti-immigration sentiments around, it is highly unlikely that something will happen in the near future. So, NO. I am not waiting to see some success, before I join the band wagon. When you started IV a few years back, I am not sure you envisioned this many members today. Inspite of having over 25000 members, the admin fix compaign only seem to have received about 10% letters. So, What are the other members doing? Why are they not participating? what is holding them back? That is a question for everyone of us. That is something, I thought every member should reflect upon. We have around 25000 members here in IV. But, we know for a fact that there are atleast a million people waiting in line. How do we reach them and how to get them to actively participate in IV action items?
Like you said, IV is a grass roots organization and it is up to the members to make things happen. But how? Apart from these action items for admin fixes etc, Can't IV have a membership drive? Get more people to join IV and contribute.
I know for a fact, that there are so many people here in Nebraska who have no clue about IV. I have been educating them when I get an opportunity. A Local Chapter could easily solve the problem. But, until now, I had no clue as to what is required to start a chapter. (Thank you Walking_dude). Answers to questions like this is what I meant by transaparency. Not the accounts or donations, as someone suggested in this forum.
Also, When I suggested about honarary payments to core team, I am not trying to belitte anyone in the team. I just thought, that you and other members of the core team should be compensated for all the efforts you put in. After all, these efforts and money you spend is going to benefit me and every other aspiring immigrant of this country. So, It was just a thought.
I will try my best to lay the foundations of IV presence here in NE. I would welcome any suggestions and comments.
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