vdlrao
03-07 08:32 PM
I am in and Voted yes.
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alisa
02-04 01:29 PM
Ofcourse, with all due respect, I beg to differ, in that I think that diversity should prevail over skill.
From my point of view, that would be common sense. :)
that's right the actual law had two words that could change the actual meaning of how they are supposed to do it (ie., vertical versus horizontal). Some people (i was one of them) thought that at such a stalemate in the words that coomon sense should prevail. Common sense would dictate that skill would prevail over diversity.
However; the rules were always such that there was never any horizontal spillover but rather vertical. The main thing that changed was that the unused visas from row could be used by retrogressed countries quarterly rather then annually.
From my point of view, that would be common sense. :)
that's right the actual law had two words that could change the actual meaning of how they are supposed to do it (ie., vertical versus horizontal). Some people (i was one of them) thought that at such a stalemate in the words that coomon sense should prevail. Common sense would dictate that skill would prevail over diversity.
However; the rules were always such that there was never any horizontal spillover but rather vertical. The main thing that changed was that the unused visas from row could be used by retrogressed countries quarterly rather then annually.
vparam
09-08 12:18 PM
Now that your faith is restored, I'm assuming we'll see you in DC? :)
Quick question... why is the faith in an organization so shaky, like a suspicious spouse? :)
The efforts that the core team puts into this, as also those of other active members of the community, and the recent events should provide a good grounding in IV's mission, intentions, and leadership.
You have all the rights to question, for sure, but I would PM one of the moderators/core team. If my concerns aren't suitably addressed, I would feel free to post on the forum.
cheers!
jazz
I do not want to be involved in faith restored discussion.... I have been in IV for long enough to know about IV... and since i know IV considerbly well... that is the reason i put forward my question in this open forum... Since IV is open organization.... some might prefer it to be PM but i prefer it to be open discussion
Quick question... why is the faith in an organization so shaky, like a suspicious spouse? :)
The efforts that the core team puts into this, as also those of other active members of the community, and the recent events should provide a good grounding in IV's mission, intentions, and leadership.
You have all the rights to question, for sure, but I would PM one of the moderators/core team. If my concerns aren't suitably addressed, I would feel free to post on the forum.
cheers!
jazz
I do not want to be involved in faith restored discussion.... I have been in IV for long enough to know about IV... and since i know IV considerbly well... that is the reason i put forward my question in this open forum... Since IV is open organization.... some might prefer it to be PM but i prefer it to be open discussion
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pappu
11-22 08:30 PM
you can also use donations at immigrationvoice.org in paypal for any amount.
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Nil
04-11 10:50 AM
This thread brings up a good point - of labor reuse & misuse in yester-years.
Incidentally there are many who have never seen a glimpse of what is inside their labor certification as the employer & their lawyer still refuses to share it with the candidate. And i am not talking of the oft-bashed consulting companies.
For the candidate - who continues to pursue the American dream, it is:
1) Not Transparent
2) Subjugation to the whim of Employer / Lawyer
3) Non compliant to a common code implying a non level field of play
Thereby Unfair.
In my humble opinion - should be part of the core argument we have against the system.
Incidentally there are many who have never seen a glimpse of what is inside their labor certification as the employer & their lawyer still refuses to share it with the candidate. And i am not talking of the oft-bashed consulting companies.
For the candidate - who continues to pursue the American dream, it is:
1) Not Transparent
2) Subjugation to the whim of Employer / Lawyer
3) Non compliant to a common code implying a non level field of play
Thereby Unfair.
In my humble opinion - should be part of the core argument we have against the system.
yabadaba
12-18 08:15 PM
i contributed too
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reddymjm
03-09 05:25 PM
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/misc.php?do=donate
Click on the donate tab on top of this page.
Click on the donate tab on top of this page.
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senthil1
09-08 02:10 PM
US immigration policy is to get foreign people only when certain skills are not available. There are lot of laws are there to protect US jobs while hiring Foreign persons. And some more may come while increasing immigration. Some times it might not be enforced correctly. It is the mistake of US enforcement agencies and Companies but not the mistake of immigrants. Many immigrants are creating jobs here. Yes you have to complain to authorities if any one violated immigration laws. But there is no use of blaming all the immigrants. There is nothing wrong in increasing immigration with the protection of American jobs. If protection is not enough then you can ask congress to increase more protection of US jobs. But moderate increase of green card is needed. And IV goal will not increase immigration numbers and will not create unemployment in Americans because the persons will stay till getting green card. So it does not make any difference if they increase or not increase GC numbers. But it will make many persons life easier.
I am surprised that I haven�t been banned yet. Since, I am not; I will fight till the end. Now, you fellas must be eagerly waiting for my replies. Though you are not worth my time, but have patience, I am still going to reply to you all one by one, clearing any doubts you might have.
This will be my contribution to protect our way of living ...
Message to the people moderating this forum: You call yourselves an open forum then show some guts, let me present my points. I am going to be posting series of messages and will try to be "Civil". But don't you dare to lock me out
I am surprised that I haven�t been banned yet. Since, I am not; I will fight till the end. Now, you fellas must be eagerly waiting for my replies. Though you are not worth my time, but have patience, I am still going to reply to you all one by one, clearing any doubts you might have.
This will be my contribution to protect our way of living ...
Message to the people moderating this forum: You call yourselves an open forum then show some guts, let me present my points. I am going to be posting series of messages and will try to be "Civil". But don't you dare to lock me out
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rnanchal
02-04 02:01 PM
Anyway fair and common sense are words that do not exist in USCIS dictionaries. Belief, faith and supporting IV is perspective too. All these entities do not last without results
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bombaysardar
07-17 08:12 PM
abolish per country limits on EB visas will back fire us because of diversity issue. We should propose some thing where there is no controversy to reject and that's is recapture 200K visas and EAD/APO for 3 years
There is no per country limits for importing goods, services or Finance? Why for skills????
All that the country requires is Skills. Color shoudn't matter, nor should race.
There is no per country limits for importing goods, services or Finance? Why for skills????
All that the country requires is Skills. Color shoudn't matter, nor should race.
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jaocanada
07-17 10:53 PM
Kudos & thanks a lot IV team! I hope this inspires members to contribute regularly which in turn will enable the core team to carry on the sustained lobbying effort to bring about systemic changes. Although today's news is great, this is only a small step. Now begins the long long wait till our cases are taken up for adjudication. Our woes will not go away unless the underlying problem of severely constrained visa availability is addressed.
Time to roll up our sleeves and continue working with renewed vigor.
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Contributing $50 per month
Time to roll up our sleeves and continue working with renewed vigor.
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Contributing $50 per month
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leong
09-07 11:03 PM
Yes,, they did...
Our forefathers travelled to the promised land in ships that were full of rats, without food or water. Several of them died while trying to reach here.
Once here on the promised land, we had to fight our way to create a free society that you are dying to be part of. America is land of entrepreneurs.
And any one that don't have an entrepreneurial spirit is not welcomed here.
What do you have to bring to the table?
then i think instead of worrying about this a few thousand ppl here, you should start to campaign kicking out those millions and millions unqualified born US citizens out and tell your MNC entrepreneurs making big bucks in Asia back to expoilt middle classes here.. uhmmm...
Our forefathers travelled to the promised land in ships that were full of rats, without food or water. Several of them died while trying to reach here.
Once here on the promised land, we had to fight our way to create a free society that you are dying to be part of. America is land of entrepreneurs.
And any one that don't have an entrepreneurial spirit is not welcomed here.
What do you have to bring to the table?
then i think instead of worrying about this a few thousand ppl here, you should start to campaign kicking out those millions and millions unqualified born US citizens out and tell your MNC entrepreneurs making big bucks in Asia back to expoilt middle classes here.. uhmmm...
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Milind123
09-07 10:54 PM
After hearing this, do you think our folks will sit quiet. We will do whatever it takes to makes sure that American jobs stays American.
By god grace , we will make sure that Strive act does not pass. Especially, the portion that talks about employment based category.
Now what did I do wrong? OK, ok tell your folks that I will be traveling by econ class.
By god grace , we will make sure that Strive act does not pass. Especially, the portion that talks about employment based category.
Now what did I do wrong? OK, ok tell your folks that I will be traveling by econ class.
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pappu
11-27 10:27 PM
Just sent in $50 to donations@immigrationvoice.org thru paypal.
Thanks
Thanks
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GCNirvana007
08-20 07:32 AM
Good question. I was wondering that too. Though I have taken an appointment for Monday 8/24.
Have a weird feeling, all 2004 will be cleared this time. We deserve it the most in EB2 and its been so unjustful for us.
Have a weird feeling, all 2004 will be cleared this time. We deserve it the most in EB2 and its been so unjustful for us.
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english_august
07-06 10:36 PM
The Times of India article that is on their website has also been published in Delhi and Mumbai print editions of Saturday. You can check out their epaper.
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Refugee_New
11-12 02:09 PM
Hello guys,
Sorry for this non-immigration related post. We have this sudden, tragic situation that I wanted all of your advice on. Thank you for your time in reading this long post.
We had hired an Indian nanny in NJ who, we learnt after hiring her, is here on a tourist visa. We were paying her $350 per week cash, which is the standard rate around here for nannies (incl. citizens and people on GC). We had liked her when we met her in response to an ad on Sulekha, and we thought an Indian nanny would be good for our first child. She has been with us for about 3 months, and we were intermittently not getting a good feeling with her for some reason. We finally bought a small security camera and installed it yesterday. On the very first day with the camera, we came home and saw the recorded video to find that she is violently hitting the baby on two separate occasions. Needless to say, it has shocked, angered and extremely saddened us. I showed the video to a couple of friends and even they say it is unbearable to watch. This was just the first day of recording and it pains us tremendously to think what all may have happened previously.
She is of course not going to stay with the baby alone anymore, but I want to know what legal options I have to penalize her to the fullest extent, so that she does not do this to anybody else’s small babies. She it seems had come here last year and taken care of someone else’s baby in Hoboken, and I can imagine that their baby also went through this. (This woman and her husband are a ~ 35 year old couple, who have a multiple entry ten year tourist visa; both come here for 6 months every year and work odd jobs like this. They apparently got a (unsponsored) tourist visa after showing a lot of landed property in India).
I specifically want to know if I will have potential problems if I go to law enforcement about this- regarding have employed her (both of us are on H1B visas). I know we have made mistakes and should have done better due diligence in this, and there cannot be any more punishment for us than seeing our 8 month old – who cannot tell us about it when we come home- being beaten on the tapes. We saw this yesterday and have not told her yet. We want to weigh all options before we proceed, but from today onwards one of us is home all the time till Friday. Any advice or opinion is sincerely appreciated. Thanks for reading this long post. And, to all who are thinking of nannies or have one, please learn from our mistakes and closely monitor your child’s safety every day.
Thunderbold, Sorry for your situation. Here is my observation/suggestion.
Being an immigrant you have broken the law by hiring someone to work illegally. Didn't you and your wife break the law?
You have already witnessed a child abuse and now pondering whether to report this to a law enforcement or not. Again you are breaking the law by not reporting a child abuse. Remember, abetting a crime is also a crime.
This country has given us so much including good wealth and health(except GC) and we enjoy every thing, but in return what we do is to do these kind of illegal activities.
This country let us and our spouse to work, make hell lot of money. I am not saying we are making easy money, but after having two incomes, we run around with coupons and look for cheap things or do things that are cheap. WHY?
What are we going to do with that money man? This is nothing but a greediness.
Anyway, your child has gone thru a nightmare and as a parent/father you MUST report this to a law enforcement office. You can not let this child abuser go scot-free.
Note: When you can hire a nanny that is legal/citizen for $350/week, then why did you hire someone illegal?
Sorry for this non-immigration related post. We have this sudden, tragic situation that I wanted all of your advice on. Thank you for your time in reading this long post.
We had hired an Indian nanny in NJ who, we learnt after hiring her, is here on a tourist visa. We were paying her $350 per week cash, which is the standard rate around here for nannies (incl. citizens and people on GC). We had liked her when we met her in response to an ad on Sulekha, and we thought an Indian nanny would be good for our first child. She has been with us for about 3 months, and we were intermittently not getting a good feeling with her for some reason. We finally bought a small security camera and installed it yesterday. On the very first day with the camera, we came home and saw the recorded video to find that she is violently hitting the baby on two separate occasions. Needless to say, it has shocked, angered and extremely saddened us. I showed the video to a couple of friends and even they say it is unbearable to watch. This was just the first day of recording and it pains us tremendously to think what all may have happened previously.
She is of course not going to stay with the baby alone anymore, but I want to know what legal options I have to penalize her to the fullest extent, so that she does not do this to anybody else’s small babies. She it seems had come here last year and taken care of someone else’s baby in Hoboken, and I can imagine that their baby also went through this. (This woman and her husband are a ~ 35 year old couple, who have a multiple entry ten year tourist visa; both come here for 6 months every year and work odd jobs like this. They apparently got a (unsponsored) tourist visa after showing a lot of landed property in India).
I specifically want to know if I will have potential problems if I go to law enforcement about this- regarding have employed her (both of us are on H1B visas). I know we have made mistakes and should have done better due diligence in this, and there cannot be any more punishment for us than seeing our 8 month old – who cannot tell us about it when we come home- being beaten on the tapes. We saw this yesterday and have not told her yet. We want to weigh all options before we proceed, but from today onwards one of us is home all the time till Friday. Any advice or opinion is sincerely appreciated. Thanks for reading this long post. And, to all who are thinking of nannies or have one, please learn from our mistakes and closely monitor your child’s safety every day.
Thunderbold, Sorry for your situation. Here is my observation/suggestion.
Being an immigrant you have broken the law by hiring someone to work illegally. Didn't you and your wife break the law?
You have already witnessed a child abuse and now pondering whether to report this to a law enforcement or not. Again you are breaking the law by not reporting a child abuse. Remember, abetting a crime is also a crime.
This country has given us so much including good wealth and health(except GC) and we enjoy every thing, but in return what we do is to do these kind of illegal activities.
This country let us and our spouse to work, make hell lot of money. I am not saying we are making easy money, but after having two incomes, we run around with coupons and look for cheap things or do things that are cheap. WHY?
What are we going to do with that money man? This is nothing but a greediness.
Anyway, your child has gone thru a nightmare and as a parent/father you MUST report this to a law enforcement office. You can not let this child abuser go scot-free.
Note: When you can hire a nanny that is legal/citizen for $350/week, then why did you hire someone illegal?
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GCNirvana007
08-18 12:45 PM
I had to be persistent with my complaint with the Ombudsman. Finally I got it later in the year. When I sent my complaint in, sometime in July 08, I thought I was among the few who were left out. But this thread suggests that there are a lot who were bypassed when they gave GC's to PD's in 2005 and 2006 last year.
So you got GC when your PD wasnt current?
So you got GC when your PD wasnt current?
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Administrator2
09-17 11:21 PM
GCStatus,
We would like to pass the baton to you. Its not "my" website. You are free to take it. Kindly let us your a number to reach you and we will start the transition process.
Thanks,
BTW, no one is telling you the credentials, just letting you know that your rude posting about Admins hiding in a secret place is not appreciated. You cut-past one post, what about your other posts. Do you want me to post them here? Now lets get back to "ownership" and "rudeness" debate because it always turns out that way. You can say anything and if Admin responds, all of a sudden Admin is showing attitude, Admin is rude, freedom of speech, Ist amendment, Admins is dictators, Admins are like Hitler etc etc . Nothing new, we have seen this story repeat countless times.
And one more thing, you are busy and others have all the free time in the world. Is that right?
We would like to pass the baton to you. Its not "my" website. You are free to take it. Kindly let us your a number to reach you and we will start the transition process.
Thanks,
BTW, no one is telling you the credentials, just letting you know that your rude posting about Admins hiding in a secret place is not appreciated. You cut-past one post, what about your other posts. Do you want me to post them here? Now lets get back to "ownership" and "rudeness" debate because it always turns out that way. You can say anything and if Admin responds, all of a sudden Admin is showing attitude, Admin is rude, freedom of speech, Ist amendment, Admins is dictators, Admins are like Hitler etc etc . Nothing new, we have seen this story repeat countless times.
And one more thing, you are busy and others have all the free time in the world. Is that right?
desi3933
09-18 11:37 AM
I am here to fight the USCIS. Unfortunately you being a thorn.
Why don't you start your own site fightwithuscis.org. You can be admin and nobody will be a thorn for you. :D :D :D
BTW - When are you filing lawsuit? and what are your basis to sue?
Why don't you start your own site fightwithuscis.org. You can be admin and nobody will be a thorn for you. :D :D :D
BTW - When are you filing lawsuit? and what are your basis to sue?
nonimmi
09-08 11:36 AM
Yes,, they did...
Our forefathers travelled to the promised land in ships that were full of rats, without food or water. Several of them died while trying to reach here.
Once here on the promised land, we had to fight our way to create a free society that you are dying to be part of. America is land of entrepreneurs.
And any one that don't have an entrepreneurial spirit is not welcomed here.
What do you have to bring to the table?
If you know so much about US then you must know this -
"immigrants were one of the key founders in more than a quarter of all the engineering and technology companies set up in the U.S. between 1995 and 2005. Further, it counted $52 billion in annual sales by these immigrant-founded companies, which employed 450,000 workers in 2005. "
http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/india/article.cfm?articleid=4205
Read what industry leaders from Microsoft, Google, Intel and Sun are talking about. Why they look to India and China. You dont want to understand this. Thats fine too. You did not have proper education to know this. Ask your parents why they neglected you while finding their soulmates (or ****buddies).
You "dumb and dumber" people just used this country and thought no one will ever challenge you. Now that you know very well your good old days are over you're talking all garbage. Go and hide where you can. You're not lucky enough to enjoy this country like your grandfathers did!! Bad luck buddy.
Keep talking rubbish if you wish as you've nothing better to do.
Our forefathers travelled to the promised land in ships that were full of rats, without food or water. Several of them died while trying to reach here.
Once here on the promised land, we had to fight our way to create a free society that you are dying to be part of. America is land of entrepreneurs.
And any one that don't have an entrepreneurial spirit is not welcomed here.
What do you have to bring to the table?
If you know so much about US then you must know this -
"immigrants were one of the key founders in more than a quarter of all the engineering and technology companies set up in the U.S. between 1995 and 2005. Further, it counted $52 billion in annual sales by these immigrant-founded companies, which employed 450,000 workers in 2005. "
http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/india/article.cfm?articleid=4205
Read what industry leaders from Microsoft, Google, Intel and Sun are talking about. Why they look to India and China. You dont want to understand this. Thats fine too. You did not have proper education to know this. Ask your parents why they neglected you while finding their soulmates (or ****buddies).
You "dumb and dumber" people just used this country and thought no one will ever challenge you. Now that you know very well your good old days are over you're talking all garbage. Go and hide where you can. You're not lucky enough to enjoy this country like your grandfathers did!! Bad luck buddy.
Keep talking rubbish if you wish as you've nothing better to do.
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