chaanakya
08-13 05:41 PM
Yes, that is right, I said �plight of EB2-India�.
I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...
Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as �oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years� etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).
All these posts that refer to �my career is over because my gc is delayed� are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.
For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven�t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...
Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as �oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years� etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).
All these posts that refer to �my career is over because my gc is delayed� are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.
For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven�t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
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santb1975
01-30 05:07 PM
it is at 22 now. I will post this on the so.Cal chapter
belmontboy
07-18 08:02 PM
For diversity they have GC lottery. Having per country limits in EB categories doesnot make sense
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09-17 01:46 PM
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ps57002
07-26 11:35 AM
I guess I feel more and more hopeless by each second/minute
My PERM application (5/28/07 PD) stuck at Atlanta
In meantime I asked my lawyer what my employer would need to get for me (my employer has been a major pain and slow beyond words...took years to get PERm going...i'm seriously just done/depressed with so much). My lawyer said they would need to provide 2006 tax docs and sign bunch of papers etc.
Checked with employer...it's an average work place...must have 100 employees i think....and i'm told by HR (this woman in charge seriously has some stuff against me...i don't know) that they don't have 2006 returns, just 2005...come on a legal place like them has to have filed 2006 return.... but this is what i'm told..
I guess what's the point...without those docs, which i assume are initial evidence, i have no hope....
me...really sad....
My PERM application (5/28/07 PD) stuck at Atlanta
In meantime I asked my lawyer what my employer would need to get for me (my employer has been a major pain and slow beyond words...took years to get PERm going...i'm seriously just done/depressed with so much). My lawyer said they would need to provide 2006 tax docs and sign bunch of papers etc.
Checked with employer...it's an average work place...must have 100 employees i think....and i'm told by HR (this woman in charge seriously has some stuff against me...i don't know) that they don't have 2006 returns, just 2005...come on a legal place like them has to have filed 2006 return.... but this is what i'm told..
I guess what's the point...without those docs, which i assume are initial evidence, i have no hope....
me...really sad....
Carlau
02-05 05:04 PM
what logic life says makes 100% sense. we are not here to fight --- there are other forums for that. in fact, i should not have respoded to eb3_nepa at all
I am not fighting but YES, my reason to join IV was to find justice to the H-4 not being able to work when L-1 spouses and Agjob spouses (I read this a year ago) could. Although no promises were made from IV, I was surprised today since nothing was ever said regarding no interest in the H-4 cause when many discussions were in place. Here people contribute for their own benefits, I was here for the H-4s, that is why I transcribed part of the conference calls too, so I was somehow a contributor to a cause that doesn't represnt my interests, but I know it represents the interests of the unmarried folks, or married to IT 'spouses' folks, so for this folks the fight for better legal provisions still on, good luck to you!.
I am not fighting but YES, my reason to join IV was to find justice to the H-4 not being able to work when L-1 spouses and Agjob spouses (I read this a year ago) could. Although no promises were made from IV, I was surprised today since nothing was ever said regarding no interest in the H-4 cause when many discussions were in place. Here people contribute for their own benefits, I was here for the H-4s, that is why I transcribed part of the conference calls too, so I was somehow a contributor to a cause that doesn't represnt my interests, but I know it represents the interests of the unmarried folks, or married to IT 'spouses' folks, so for this folks the fight for better legal provisions still on, good luck to you!.
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edaltsis
09-24 12:57 PM
Take it easy! He vented out his anger for no reason, just forgive him or ignore his ignorance. IV welcomes donations but its for a reason, to maintain such a good portal. May be he dint like this.
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jimytomy
04-23 06:24 AM
Did you get finger printing notice? You did not mention that in the porting process.
No, I did not get get finger printing notice .
Thanks,
Jimytomy
No, I did not get get finger printing notice .
Thanks,
Jimytomy
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anandrajesh
02-01 12:26 PM
Please donot let this thread a self-flogging ritual...
We the H1Bs are the victims of the this system. We did not create this system. It is true that there are social costs associated with this system. Abolishing the system is not the solution. Reform and making the system just is the solution..That is all we are asking for....
Blaming the victim of an atrocity for the atrocity is sheer stupidity....
Remember for Every Google, there is a ENRON. So based on ENRON experience you dont generalize all American Corps are dishonest.
Same logic applies here i work for a Small "Desi" Company and they are very honest and pay me reasonably well. They dont break laws or find ways to circumvent it. So i dont like to hear all H1Bs Companies are Cheats.
We the H1Bs are the victims of the this system. We did not create this system. It is true that there are social costs associated with this system. Abolishing the system is not the solution. Reform and making the system just is the solution..That is all we are asking for....
Blaming the victim of an atrocity for the atrocity is sheer stupidity....
Remember for Every Google, there is a ENRON. So based on ENRON experience you dont generalize all American Corps are dishonest.
Same logic applies here i work for a Small "Desi" Company and they are very honest and pay me reasonably well. They dont break laws or find ways to circumvent it. So i dont like to hear all H1Bs Companies are Cheats.
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pappu
04-10 07:23 AM
The funding drive ends on coming Friday Pappu : Does this thread yet needs to be bumped up?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD EVENING GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD EVENING GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
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joydiptac
11-01 10:03 PM
Let us all have a rally to move back to our countries on 4July2008 to symbolically show that we want our Freedom and Independence and never return back...
Hey Mr. G I Joe,
Dont know who you are? or what your motive may be?
But you are asking the wrong question to the wrong group. :D
People who are backlogged in the gc queue.. facing career hardships.. or frustrated... :( ..are still hanging on to their hope of getting a gc.. someday! To be part of the American Dream. -- They are the ones visiting this website, to check if there is any news.. any ray of hope for their doldrum existence.
Do you think they will say yes to you?
The guys who decide to move back unfortunately don't come to this website.
During the last recession & once in a while I see lot of smart guys (lot smarter and lot more educated than myself) move back to their home country. Not because they don't have a job but due to better prospects back home (booming economy et al). They came here since America showed promise.. they left because the way they were treated was not what they expected. Bottomline America failed to holdback those brainy folks. They may have said yes to you. They probably wouldn't have bothered. So coming back to our conclusion. Wrong question.. wrong addressee..:p
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Joy :D
P.S. Can someone unbump this thread. Wasting everyones time!!!
Hey Mr. G I Joe,
Dont know who you are? or what your motive may be?
But you are asking the wrong question to the wrong group. :D
People who are backlogged in the gc queue.. facing career hardships.. or frustrated... :( ..are still hanging on to their hope of getting a gc.. someday! To be part of the American Dream. -- They are the ones visiting this website, to check if there is any news.. any ray of hope for their doldrum existence.
Do you think they will say yes to you?
The guys who decide to move back unfortunately don't come to this website.
During the last recession & once in a while I see lot of smart guys (lot smarter and lot more educated than myself) move back to their home country. Not because they don't have a job but due to better prospects back home (booming economy et al). They came here since America showed promise.. they left because the way they were treated was not what they expected. Bottomline America failed to holdback those brainy folks. They may have said yes to you. They probably wouldn't have bothered. So coming back to our conclusion. Wrong question.. wrong addressee..:p
n'
Joy :D
P.S. Can someone unbump this thread. Wasting everyones time!!!
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desi3933
08-21 08:21 AM
I am an early 2004 EB2 filer. I am hoping that mine would get approved at least before Oct. My EAD, AP, H1 and DL is getting expired in Oct. Glad to know that citizenship is making a difference in your life. I am happy for you. Good Luck
Thanks so much NKR.
I think, your GC approval should happen anyday. Wish you the very best!
Thanks so much NKR.
I think, your GC approval should happen anyday. Wish you the very best!
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Leo07
12-01 03:56 PM
I have read my post couple of times before posting to avoid any mis-communication...but it's never possible to prevent I believe:)
I have a recurring contributions setup and also contributed what ever I could this holidays...probably will contribute more before the end of the season. My post is not about the Monthly contributions made by you, me or many others...who signed up.
It's about the ones' who cannot for what ever the reason may be....you and me pointing to the salaries or house-hold incomes will not help them join the wagon.
It's about increasing the donations irrespective of people joining the monthly-contributions scheme....Other viable options...may be having a IV donation boxes...in immigrant owned businesses....etc.
In an ideal world as you mentioned atleast 20000 of 25000 will contribute monthly....It's defintely good to aim for that....but that's not realistic.
I have a recurring contributions setup and also contributed what ever I could this holidays...probably will contribute more before the end of the season. My post is not about the Monthly contributions made by you, me or many others...who signed up.
It's about the ones' who cannot for what ever the reason may be....you and me pointing to the salaries or house-hold incomes will not help them join the wagon.
It's about increasing the donations irrespective of people joining the monthly-contributions scheme....Other viable options...may be having a IV donation boxes...in immigrant owned businesses....etc.
In an ideal world as you mentioned atleast 20000 of 25000 will contribute monthly....It's defintely good to aim for that....but that's not realistic.
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bugsbunny
04-17 03:04 PM
Looks like you are one of the beneficiaries of H1 who does not have good education. You can console yourself with the word 'skill' and all that computer jargon The bottomline is H1B visa is for professionals. However, in the past few years, Indian IT bodyshops have sent underskilled computer operators to the US to enhance their operating margins. This will come to end very soon and has to come to an end very soon. I think the process has already begun. Number of H1b visas rejected at Indian bodyshops have gone up. Operating margins at Infosys has shrunk significantly. Infosys and other bodyshops have seen stock price plummet drastically.
Companies such as Congizant have stopped bringing people from India on H1. Rather they are trying to hire people in the US who already have H1B visas. The illegals who have gotton their H1B from shady consultants in NJ, CA and elsewhere. Congizant is doing community service by legalizing illegals. The people who sat on the bench during recession while holding their H1B visas without a paycheck. Sorry with paycheck which needs to be refunded to the employer by personal check. Stop the fraud, please stop the fraud.
Again you have provided no arguments to support why you believe IGNOU or Univ or Phoenix are fraudulent. Just because you believe they are...does not automatically make them so. Please provide proper reasoning.
Instead you jumped to a different topic of IT bodyshops which is unrelated to the two people who asked if they qualify for EB2
Companies such as Congizant have stopped bringing people from India on H1. Rather they are trying to hire people in the US who already have H1B visas. The illegals who have gotton their H1B from shady consultants in NJ, CA and elsewhere. Congizant is doing community service by legalizing illegals. The people who sat on the bench during recession while holding their H1B visas without a paycheck. Sorry with paycheck which needs to be refunded to the employer by personal check. Stop the fraud, please stop the fraud.
Again you have provided no arguments to support why you believe IGNOU or Univ or Phoenix are fraudulent. Just because you believe they are...does not automatically make them so. Please provide proper reasoning.
Instead you jumped to a different topic of IT bodyshops which is unrelated to the two people who asked if they qualify for EB2
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B3NKobe
06-08 09:09 AM
ben, you still want to wait until the 30th?
Iv got so many entries for this comp, Im starting to think ill have to cut the dead line short? I can always make a new iPod Skin battle later on as im sure people enjoyed it.
What do people think? end the battle now or wait till 30th?
Iv got so many entries for this comp, Im starting to think ill have to cut the dead line short? I can always make a new iPod Skin battle later on as im sure people enjoyed it.
What do people think? end the battle now or wait till 30th?
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pappu
04-15 08:36 AM
Suggestions to everyone wanting to file I485 when their date is not current:
- Talk to the leaders of this campaign. Do not just sit back after voting. Ask what help they need and what work you can do as a volunteer. People affected need to take lead and work hard for any fix. This will not cost you any money. All you need to give is your time.
- Consider signing up for recurring contributions every month. It takes lot of resources to run an advocacy effort and your support is critical.
- Talk to the leaders of this campaign. Do not just sit back after voting. Ask what help they need and what work you can do as a volunteer. People affected need to take lead and work hard for any fix. This will not cost you any money. All you need to give is your time.
- Consider signing up for recurring contributions every month. It takes lot of resources to run an advocacy effort and your support is critical.
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ajay
12-07 12:08 PM
I also used points provided by altergo to send my story. Let us see if all of this will make some help in getting some real help.
Thanks to altergo for initiating this.
Thanks to altergo for initiating this.
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tonyHK12
04-20 06:27 PM
Thanks TonyHK12. I see that so far you have kept it cool here...inspite of some provocations :)
I for one very much appreciate that. Please keep it up. We do have common goals that we can work productively towards.
thanks. something needs to be done about the people following me around and creating provocation at every opportunity, as they say - flaming. I guess it comes from having an inferiority complex.
The moderators are not very active here, having full time jobs
I for one very much appreciate that. Please keep it up. We do have common goals that we can work productively towards.
thanks. something needs to be done about the people following me around and creating provocation at every opportunity, as they say - flaming. I guess it comes from having an inferiority complex.
The moderators are not very active here, having full time jobs
borgho
06-07 10:44 AM
I totally agree with the reasoning logiclife presented.
Its very important that we (legal immigrants - especially work based GC applicants) take this cause seriously with some action or contributions. Following points have convinced me more:
1. Large IT companies have acted dissapointingly as far as our cause goes. They are ready to pay $85 or $100 or more for us as consultants but wont take up our cause. Most have increasingly decided to hire H1s as consultants rather than hiring H1s directly and even when they do hire H1s they are reluctant to file green cards. Some will file green cards just to keep us hooked - but wont petition on our behalf to make the process more efficient. IT companies used to be our biggest supporters - which we seem to be loosing as time goes by. (There are a few exceptions of course - not all companies are just happy to exploit us and not help us).
2. Since the terrorist attacks most states and cities along with the federal government have systematically erroded privileges (sometimes even basic privileges) granted to legal immigrants. They have been successful since the mentality of the nation has turned negative towards new immigrants. Of course this has been done very efficiently in sublimal ways by mounting hurdles for us. One stark example - Drivers licenses for immigrants can only be issued in some states at few select DMV (or BMV) locations (hidden behind a logic that not all BMV centers are well equipped to handle the security checks now required to be conducted on immigrants before granting IDs). This is ridiculous - we are expected to work but it will be increasingly difficult to do what we are expected to (privlege to drive is an example).
I am sure folks can add more points. These points make me feel as if our cause is not worth worrying about for even fair minded residents - we are a forgotten lot. Therefore, we must raise our voice.
borgho.
Its very important that we (legal immigrants - especially work based GC applicants) take this cause seriously with some action or contributions. Following points have convinced me more:
1. Large IT companies have acted dissapointingly as far as our cause goes. They are ready to pay $85 or $100 or more for us as consultants but wont take up our cause. Most have increasingly decided to hire H1s as consultants rather than hiring H1s directly and even when they do hire H1s they are reluctant to file green cards. Some will file green cards just to keep us hooked - but wont petition on our behalf to make the process more efficient. IT companies used to be our biggest supporters - which we seem to be loosing as time goes by. (There are a few exceptions of course - not all companies are just happy to exploit us and not help us).
2. Since the terrorist attacks most states and cities along with the federal government have systematically erroded privileges (sometimes even basic privileges) granted to legal immigrants. They have been successful since the mentality of the nation has turned negative towards new immigrants. Of course this has been done very efficiently in sublimal ways by mounting hurdles for us. One stark example - Drivers licenses for immigrants can only be issued in some states at few select DMV (or BMV) locations (hidden behind a logic that not all BMV centers are well equipped to handle the security checks now required to be conducted on immigrants before granting IDs). This is ridiculous - we are expected to work but it will be increasingly difficult to do what we are expected to (privlege to drive is an example).
I am sure folks can add more points. These points make me feel as if our cause is not worth worrying about for even fair minded residents - we are a forgotten lot. Therefore, we must raise our voice.
borgho.
gc28262
03-10 07:17 PM
This data is ambiguous from the USCIS. It very well could represent pending 140 petitions, in which case all the euphoria would turn to shock. We must try to get clarification about this before anything else.
One of the tables there mentions the NIW, that is determined at the 140 level, after that a 485 is a 485 and it goes into the EB2 queue. So when they list that in the breakdown, I suspect if they may be referring to 140s here. Additionally they list either no NIW140 or NIW-based 485s from the NSC. If they are referring to NIW based 485s, this is incorrect, since I am one of those with an approved NIW and pending 485 at the NSC. There are others like me on IV physician forum.
So lets try to get more information about this response. This data does not give the whole story. In a worst case scenario it is indeed pending 140s they have given.
The best strategy is to prepare a request that will get all the details and route it through different senators.
Multiple members from different geographical area should route the same request through their senators.
If the query result from all these senators doesn't match, we will know USCIS didn't give the proper info.
In that case we can follow up with senators for the real data.
One of the tables there mentions the NIW, that is determined at the 140 level, after that a 485 is a 485 and it goes into the EB2 queue. So when they list that in the breakdown, I suspect if they may be referring to 140s here. Additionally they list either no NIW140 or NIW-based 485s from the NSC. If they are referring to NIW based 485s, this is incorrect, since I am one of those with an approved NIW and pending 485 at the NSC. There are others like me on IV physician forum.
So lets try to get more information about this response. This data does not give the whole story. In a worst case scenario it is indeed pending 140s they have given.
The best strategy is to prepare a request that will get all the details and route it through different senators.
Multiple members from different geographical area should route the same request through their senators.
If the query result from all these senators doesn't match, we will know USCIS didn't give the proper info.
In that case we can follow up with senators for the real data.
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