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11-02 04:18 PM
khodalmd...u already got your greencard. stop trolling the IV boards...thanks to uncle toms like you we were not able to get a foothold when we had a chance last year. why r u still here if u have ur GC?
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forever_waiting
04-22 07:13 PM
Ok. But how does this apply to immigration?
On the page you quote, below is what I see -
The Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice enforces federal laws that prohibit discrimination in:
Education
Employment
Housing
Lending
Public Accommodations
Law Enforcement / Police Misconduct
Voting
The "per-country limit" is definitely unfair within the realm of employment-based immigration due to the outdated and irrelevant law which needs reform. However skewing this to make it a civil rights issue is pushing it a bit too much.
So coming back to Immigration (which is what, I believe, we are discussing), below is what I came across on congress.gov.
The Supreme Court has ruled that the Congressional power to regulate naturalization, from Article 1, Section 8, includes the power to regulate immigration (see, for example, Hampton v. Mow Sun Wong, 426 U.S. 88 [1976]
In other words, the Constitution does not specifically mention immigration but based on the above, delegates power to the Congress to pass laws to regulate immigration. This Article of the Constitution also clarifies the part about rules for immigrants and quotas being set at the Federal level and not State level.
The above is a fact, not my opinion. Therefore, No - I do not agree that your reasoning has any direct parallel to our case since the correct approach and reasoning involves challenging a Supreme Court Ruling on Article 1 of the Constitution, which you would agree is next to impossible.
Thanks for asking this. I found this: Civil Rights Division Home Page (http://www.justice.gov/crt/legalinfo/natorigin.php)
IMO, rather useful in our discussion, though not relating to the constitution. But if you insist, I might point you to the 14th amendment ...
Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitu tion)
Read the "Equal protection clause". It mentions this case:
The Court has also struck down redistricting plans in which race was a key consideration. In Shaw v. Reno (1993), the Court prohibited a North Carolina plan aimed at creating majority-black districts to balance historic underrepresentation in the state's congressional delegations
Do you agree that we can draw a direct parallel of this case to our case, where they are segregating visa numbers based on the country of origin?
On the page you quote, below is what I see -
The Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice enforces federal laws that prohibit discrimination in:
Education
Employment
Housing
Lending
Public Accommodations
Law Enforcement / Police Misconduct
Voting
The "per-country limit" is definitely unfair within the realm of employment-based immigration due to the outdated and irrelevant law which needs reform. However skewing this to make it a civil rights issue is pushing it a bit too much.
So coming back to Immigration (which is what, I believe, we are discussing), below is what I came across on congress.gov.
The Supreme Court has ruled that the Congressional power to regulate naturalization, from Article 1, Section 8, includes the power to regulate immigration (see, for example, Hampton v. Mow Sun Wong, 426 U.S. 88 [1976]
In other words, the Constitution does not specifically mention immigration but based on the above, delegates power to the Congress to pass laws to regulate immigration. This Article of the Constitution also clarifies the part about rules for immigrants and quotas being set at the Federal level and not State level.
The above is a fact, not my opinion. Therefore, No - I do not agree that your reasoning has any direct parallel to our case since the correct approach and reasoning involves challenging a Supreme Court Ruling on Article 1 of the Constitution, which you would agree is next to impossible.
Thanks for asking this. I found this: Civil Rights Division Home Page (http://www.justice.gov/crt/legalinfo/natorigin.php)
IMO, rather useful in our discussion, though not relating to the constitution. But if you insist, I might point you to the 14th amendment ...
Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitu tion)
Read the "Equal protection clause". It mentions this case:
The Court has also struck down redistricting plans in which race was a key consideration. In Shaw v. Reno (1993), the Court prohibited a North Carolina plan aimed at creating majority-black districts to balance historic underrepresentation in the state's congressional delegations
Do you agree that we can draw a direct parallel of this case to our case, where they are segregating visa numbers based on the country of origin?
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12-04 01:21 AM
This suggestion is very good,There should be some fee to get access( to generate money).
how about breaking this into multiple levels.
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(2) usage fee: charge $??/month for using the IV forums, members who paid this free can post and respond and read IV updates.
how about breaking this into multiple levels.
(1) account maintenance fee: charge $1/month for maintaining the account, members who paid this fee will have read access to all threads except IV core updates. IV can generate $25K a month with this option, this can cover day to day expenses.
(2) usage fee: charge $??/month for using the IV forums, members who paid this free can post and respond and read IV updates.
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polapragada
09-13 10:19 PM
I did the remit request when $1 = 44.55 They debited the money same night it self...
But they haven't credited the money in my bank account yet Its been 7 days.
They are real frauds
But they haven't credited the money in my bank account yet Its been 7 days.
They are real frauds
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07-27 02:45 PM
Hey
you have any link to the memo?
http://www.visaportal.com/downloads/Yates%20Memo%20ability%20to%20pay.pdf
you have any link to the memo?
http://www.visaportal.com/downloads/Yates%20Memo%20ability%20to%20pay.pdf
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10-09 07:28 PM
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gsc999
11-13 02:26 PM
- First, it is highly unlikely that Hastert will ever, ever support CIR. That itself is a "red flag" from a post by "Red card."
- Actions speak louder than words. If Murtha becomes the majority leader in house than Democrat agenda for 2008 presidential agenda will be Iraq not immigration. That doesn't mean no immigration reform, just not in the "lame-duck" session.
- Lets wait for next year for any progress on immigration.
- Actions speak louder than words. If Murtha becomes the majority leader in house than Democrat agenda for 2008 presidential agenda will be Iraq not immigration. That doesn't mean no immigration reform, just not in the "lame-duck" session.
- Lets wait for next year for any progress on immigration.
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BharatPremi
12-13 03:58 PM
"Recurring Contribution" with no strings attached for non-contributors. :)
No. that's not the point. See, you can't force people. If X is "recurring contributor" now, he has done that willingly and that is the best essence for us.
As long as people support the cause and organization "Willingly" we will have infinite horizons to grow. The moment you bring "Burocracy" in, ultimately momentum will die.. may be slowly or quickly. Historically, IV threads are the major attentive media to declare the existence. We should not kill that with any enforcement of "Paid membership"...It is always hard to wake people. If that would be easy than nobody would have used the word "Struggle"..right:). On other hand yes there is a dier need of increasing financial strength exponentially and that too quickly is at high priority. We need to think and find other ways and resources.
No. that's not the point. See, you can't force people. If X is "recurring contributor" now, he has done that willingly and that is the best essence for us.
As long as people support the cause and organization "Willingly" we will have infinite horizons to grow. The moment you bring "Burocracy" in, ultimately momentum will die.. may be slowly or quickly. Historically, IV threads are the major attentive media to declare the existence. We should not kill that with any enforcement of "Paid membership"...It is always hard to wake people. If that would be easy than nobody would have used the word "Struggle"..right:). On other hand yes there is a dier need of increasing financial strength exponentially and that too quickly is at high priority. We need to think and find other ways and resources.
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Macaca
11-19 02:07 PM
The ONLY reason for CIR derailment was public opposition generated MAINLY by Lou LIAR DoGGs & Associates. Thus, there is no reason to believe that countering their effort should have lower priority then ANY other activity.
Programmers Guild, numbers USA, ALIPAC, zazona, are the 1st to blog at EVERY immigration site. Numbers USA is already there at Bill Clinton and Obama Agree: GOP Will Make Immigration an Issue (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/11/09/post_191.html) & Programmers Guild is at Senators Want International Students to Stay Longer (http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=918edda3d6c4761cec157 6421181ab8a). They are not doing it for NOTHING.
It is not possible to win every battle with them. At the same time it is not good to ignore every battle.
The problem is that this takes time. Also, the arguments have become deeper and require good understanding of issues based on reading. It is Immigration 401 now. Most IV agruments have moved to middle school and will soon move to pre-school.
Also, benefits of confrontation are hard to quantify and will not be IMMEDIATE. It will always be work in progress.
I had ignored the H1B argument since it did not affect me. I have started paying attention to it recently, which takes time. Excepting for 3+ provable arguments against Indian Consulting companies, all anti-H1B arguments are G A R B A G E. You can see the contradictions in an article if you read it carefully; some paras are contradicting. You can contradict the others by quoting other articles.
However, Programmers Guild keeps on spreading LIES at every opportunity. They are not doing it because it is useless!
In short, please learn how to learn.
Programmers Guild, numbers USA, ALIPAC, zazona, are the 1st to blog at EVERY immigration site. Numbers USA is already there at Bill Clinton and Obama Agree: GOP Will Make Immigration an Issue (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/11/09/post_191.html) & Programmers Guild is at Senators Want International Students to Stay Longer (http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=918edda3d6c4761cec157 6421181ab8a). They are not doing it for NOTHING.
It is not possible to win every battle with them. At the same time it is not good to ignore every battle.
The problem is that this takes time. Also, the arguments have become deeper and require good understanding of issues based on reading. It is Immigration 401 now. Most IV agruments have moved to middle school and will soon move to pre-school.
Also, benefits of confrontation are hard to quantify and will not be IMMEDIATE. It will always be work in progress.
I had ignored the H1B argument since it did not affect me. I have started paying attention to it recently, which takes time. Excepting for 3+ provable arguments against Indian Consulting companies, all anti-H1B arguments are G A R B A G E. You can see the contradictions in an article if you read it carefully; some paras are contradicting. You can contradict the others by quoting other articles.
However, Programmers Guild keeps on spreading LIES at every opportunity. They are not doing it because it is useless!
In short, please learn how to learn.
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IamWithImmiVoice
01-14 03:48 PM
I am thinking of starting a google group for people who would like to send letters to USCIS/White House for our efforts. Not sure if we already have IV, if we really need another google group but the main aim for doing this is to send reminders to us to send letters and once in a while have discussions on what affect our efforts are having. Do you guys think its a good idea? I think I should start a poll for this
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mirage
03-11 02:08 PM
There is obviously no insight, memo or communication that USCIS ever provided to us, this is the first time that we even heard from USCIS(That too thru a Senator) on real number. All you can do is make a guess....
Until 2005 we didn't know the word retrogression, so majority of Indians filed under EB-3. So I have distributed 2002, 2003 & 2004 evenly. then gave small EB-3 numbers to 2005/2006
It was in the middle of 2005 was when retrogression actually started or was warned by Lawyesrs(it actually started in oct-nov2005 I don't exactly remember). So people started filling only under EB-2....Since lot of 2004 cases have already been cleared, I put 10K in 2004 and evenly put 20K in 2005/2006...
Great, appreciate your insight. It will greatly help everyone to understand how you reached a conclusion for these numbers. Could you share with us the reason or logic or calculation or study or memo or communitation to support these numbers?
Thank You.
Until 2005 we didn't know the word retrogression, so majority of Indians filed under EB-3. So I have distributed 2002, 2003 & 2004 evenly. then gave small EB-3 numbers to 2005/2006
It was in the middle of 2005 was when retrogression actually started or was warned by Lawyesrs(it actually started in oct-nov2005 I don't exactly remember). So people started filling only under EB-2....Since lot of 2004 cases have already been cleared, I put 10K in 2004 and evenly put 20K in 2005/2006...
Great, appreciate your insight. It will greatly help everyone to understand how you reached a conclusion for these numbers. Could you share with us the reason or logic or calculation or study or memo or communitation to support these numbers?
Thank You.
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annsheila79
04-20 04:47 PM
No cursing, name calling please.. You could have just ignored. You have done no favour to yourself by replying.
I fully agree with FraudGultee I shouldnt have called snathan a moron, i am sorry about that. but on the hindsight his reply sort of proves it... :D
I fully agree with FraudGultee I shouldnt have called snathan a moron, i am sorry about that. but on the hindsight his reply sort of proves it... :D
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kubmilegaGC
09-24 07:39 PM
I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS...this morning 10:00AM CST we got the CPO emails for both of us...
I just can not thank Aall of you enough and the IV community for the support they have provided over the last few years - especially since Sept 1.
THANK YOU GOD - THANKS FOR LISTENING.
I will be around - not going anywhere and will support IV efforts!
BEST OF LUCK FOR THOSE WHO ARE WAITING...Believe me "appka bhi number aayega" I was loosing hopes - since Sept 1 when saw number of approvals after my PD/RD/ND etc..but there is really nothing that can predict this system.
Here is my journey - encapsulated:
PD- June 04
I485 files on July 2nd 2007 - NSC
RD 8/4/2207
SR #1: 9/4/2209
SR #2" 9/11/2209
Senator contact: 9/10/2009 and 9/11/2009
Infopass: 9/15/2009
CPO emails: 9/17/2009
Hang in there - open SRs and contact your senators!!!
....and the final step #6 is done - got the physical cards at home today. One long journey comes to an end!!!
Wishing LUCK for everyone who's still waiting!
I just can not thank Aall of you enough and the IV community for the support they have provided over the last few years - especially since Sept 1.
THANK YOU GOD - THANKS FOR LISTENING.
I will be around - not going anywhere and will support IV efforts!
BEST OF LUCK FOR THOSE WHO ARE WAITING...Believe me "appka bhi number aayega" I was loosing hopes - since Sept 1 when saw number of approvals after my PD/RD/ND etc..but there is really nothing that can predict this system.
Here is my journey - encapsulated:
PD- June 04
I485 files on July 2nd 2007 - NSC
RD 8/4/2207
SR #1: 9/4/2209
SR #2" 9/11/2209
Senator contact: 9/10/2009 and 9/11/2009
Infopass: 9/15/2009
CPO emails: 9/17/2009
Hang in there - open SRs and contact your senators!!!
....and the final step #6 is done - got the physical cards at home today. One long journey comes to an end!!!
Wishing LUCK for everyone who's still waiting!
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crazyghoda
05-05 04:27 PM
Congrats! I know how relieved you must be feeling.
If you dont mind my asking, did you work at all during these 6 weeks?
Folks I have an update on my case.
We filed for Motion to reopen on which were receipted on March 27th, 2009. I wrote to Congressman, Senators and also Ombudsman. Today my congressman's office got an update that our MTRs were approved on April 30th and our 485s got reopened and they have sent letters to that effect.
What a relief. It was a stressful 6 week ordeal. Thanks to IV and its members for the help and support.
If you dont mind my asking, did you work at all during these 6 weeks?
Folks I have an update on my case.
We filed for Motion to reopen on which were receipted on March 27th, 2009. I wrote to Congressman, Senators and also Ombudsman. Today my congressman's office got an update that our MTRs were approved on April 30th and our 485s got reopened and they have sent letters to that effect.
What a relief. It was a stressful 6 week ordeal. Thanks to IV and its members for the help and support.
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MetteBB
06-08 09:12 AM
well... since my entry is in there is really no need to wait till the 30th. It will surely win ;) :lol:
On a more serious note... there havent been alot of entries lately. Perhaps give ppl one more week and then end it?
/mette
On a more serious note... there havent been alot of entries lately. Perhaps give ppl one more week and then end it?
/mette
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06-16 04:39 PM
It is appalling to see how quickly people jump to conclusions. If you don't have any good information to share then you should not waste other's time to insert such replies. What makes you to think that I am scared of talking to attorney? I have been in this struggle for last six years, you have no idea what people have been through.. Please don't pass judgment on others...
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Bpositive
02-03 12:01 PM
anyone else with 221g experience from chennai consulate? my case status was updated to send ppt on consulate website...submitting it to vfs tomorrow..
how long from did it take to get the passport back from consulate after submitting it to vfs?
how long from did it take to get the passport back from consulate after submitting it to vfs?
pd_recapturing
04-02 07:01 PM
Did anyone who applied with TSC see LUD? I am asking this because it seems, TSC online system is not working.
ndialani
10-30 07:41 PM
Thanks Caliguy for all your help.
I was able to talk to IO in TSC. Very nice IO (male). He really took time to look into my case.
First he said my case is preadj. , Than he mentioned my I-140 is under EB3 as per computer records.
I told him, i have the copy of my approved I-140 and it is under EB 2 category. he put me on hold for like 4-5 minutes. Came back and said he has passed on the info to IO looking into my case . He asked me for Reciept,alien # ets. on my I-140 BUT God Darn it, i didint have the document with me at that time. He said, i could call, ad give it to IO . I was so MAD!!!
After 30 minutes of searching, i found my approved I140 from 2006.
I called POJ method Less than 2 minutes i spoke to IO ....they dont disclose the name.
I explained my situation again and gave him all the info .He even asked my contact phone no.
i gave it to him.
I dont know , what to do next. Do you think they really pass in the info to IO reviewing the case?
Should i call on Monday.
Man! this weekend will be a GRIND!
I wish , i had the I140 handy.
So all of you there,
Learn from my mistake...please have all the documents with you....you never know, what they will ask for.
Thanks again Caliguy!!!!
I was able to talk to IO in TSC. Very nice IO (male). He really took time to look into my case.
First he said my case is preadj. , Than he mentioned my I-140 is under EB3 as per computer records.
I told him, i have the copy of my approved I-140 and it is under EB 2 category. he put me on hold for like 4-5 minutes. Came back and said he has passed on the info to IO looking into my case . He asked me for Reciept,alien # ets. on my I-140 BUT God Darn it, i didint have the document with me at that time. He said, i could call, ad give it to IO . I was so MAD!!!
After 30 minutes of searching, i found my approved I140 from 2006.
I called POJ method Less than 2 minutes i spoke to IO ....they dont disclose the name.
I explained my situation again and gave him all the info .He even asked my contact phone no.
i gave it to him.
I dont know , what to do next. Do you think they really pass in the info to IO reviewing the case?
Should i call on Monday.
Man! this weekend will be a GRIND!
I wish , i had the I140 handy.
So all of you there,
Learn from my mistake...please have all the documents with you....you never know, what they will ask for.
Thanks again Caliguy!!!!
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